Hi Refiner's Fire -
The "principalities of the air" comes from Ephesians 6:12, but the NWT and KJV do not use this phrasing. I don't know which version of the bible does.
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by refiners fire 13 Replies latest jw friends
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Beck_Melbourne
Hey guys
I know this thread is old...but that website you posted Pappusan...whoa!! I only understood about 3 words: the, if and will...the rest were OVER my head.
How can you read this stuff let alone understand it...my head hurts after the first few words...
I gotta go...gotta get ready for my ummm....wedding LOL
Beck
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plmkrzy
OK I read through it.
Humm...I need to go over it again.[8>]
But I will be more prepared with all my bookmarks in place for referencing.
Only reading a few pages of this, I'm guessing were going to end up in universe dangling from a collar worn by a cat named Yahweh.I probably skipped over it, if there was any mention of it, where the writer addresses the subordinate gods and sons of gods being either born or man made. Other then just mentioning it.
Example Baal. He has Baal practically an equal to Yahweh as a god even if he does rate him 1st runner up there is no explanation yet why the 1st runner-up to the holiest of holy's had to be built and propped up by mere siblings of the sons of the little gods. That’s a pretty big slap in the face even for this guy.
He is confusing me so far regarding his position that these gods of the ancient times were 100% myth or real entities lost in translation.And then maybe I’m just real tired and need to read it later and try to be MORE objective. I think I’m reading it in expectation of a certain out come.
So how far off am I?
.........................It's the silence between the notes, that make the music.....................
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refiners fire
Hmmm.
Well, Im new on this angle myself and am researching at the moment in this link:
http://www.geocities.com/Area51/Capsule/6859/Texts/index.html
A lot of extra Biblical books like the book of Enoch and the book of Jubilees appear to have been employed along with ancient texts to list the names of various Spirit beings fighting on either side.
In one paper the names of 103 "fallen angels" are listed, these include:
Abbadon, Beelzebub, Belial, Leviathan, Lucifer, Moloch,Tammuz...
Names Im well familiar with.
I get the impression (not certain yet)
that these entities are different personages. I always thought Satan, Lucifer and Beelzebub were names for Satan, I think these guys are saying otherwise.
Apparently one very famous evil angel is called Azazel.
This is the angle who led the revolt involving cohabiting with women in Noahs time.(All this is recorded in the book of Enoch)200 Angels being involved.
All these apparently were chained in a pit, where they remain still,awaiting release just prior to Armaggedon.
Revelation 9 refering to the "beast ascending out of the abyss' is purported to relate to this release of Azazel and his cohorts.Plum, I assume that Baal is another of these fallen demi gods who ruled over a 'principality'.
(Genesis 6:1-4). This passage contains a detail that is often either ignored, disputed, or outright rejected - that of giants on the Earth. Here we have the record of what evidently constitutes the first great outbreak of demonic "genetic engineering" through the demonic abduction of women, the result of which was humanoid gigantism
And its happening AGAIN friends!!
"As it was in the days of Noah, so shall it be"....The fearful phenomenon of demonic "taking" and "habitation" of human bodies has often been repeated since, though apparently never yet on the global scale which Satan attempted in the days of Noah... Even in modern "Christian lands" where the influence of the Gospel has until now kept it to a minimum, this form of Satanic activity is evidently rapidly increasing. Spiritism, witchcraft, and other forms of occult belief and practice are captivating the minds and bodies of multitudes today, especially among young people
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Its happening again people!
WATER last time..the FIRE this time!
Another thing I found interesting in one of the papers was the ranks of angels.
These include:
SERAPHIM:
Enoch lists as "seraphim", Metatron, Satan, Nathaniel,
Kemuel and Gabriel.
These are supposedly the highest order of angels.
CHERUBIM:
These appear to act as guardians and intercessors.
OPHANIM:
Raphael is their ruling prince.These act as carriers.
Among others.At the bottom of the angelic heirachy are the Messengers.