Satanist kills JW father

by Dogpatch 14 Replies latest jw friends

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  singsongboi

  i believe that i fair minded about thsoe who still live in dub city (check some of my recent posts if u want verification).......

  but this matter - that is, the way that elders deal with and supposedly "assist" those with emotional or mental problems - is a matter that the group should be deeply ashamed about.

  Yes! many elders are kind and patient, but there are many who are NOT.

  And irrespective, of personal kindness, none that I ever knew had any professional training in dealing with these types of problems. Some, i have known had bizarre ideas about it... and ALL have the conceit that Jehovah has given them some special power to HELP the sheep.

  So, pity those poor souls, who, encouraraged to cut off all association with the "world", and then having mental/emotional problems -- are in the hands of some untrained elder and his ignorant conceptions of the way that mental illness should be dealt with.....

  this is one of the saddest things about life in dub city. like i said they should be deeply ashamed of the way that some elders have dealt with this type of problem.

  poor, poor jehovah's witnessses
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  SpiceItUp

  A word on therapists.....

  My parents took me to one when I was younger and as soon as the therapists told my parents that I was rebelling for my identity and that it was normal.....well...lets just say I never saw that therapist again.

  Oldhippie - this was in the early 90's so your whole thing on its an old view is sadly mistaken.

  BTW - very sad story...its too bad that he wasn't able to get help before all of this.

  Spice

  "The truth is out there....you just have to look outside the JW's"
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  Wren

  This is horrific. If only he was helped sooner. He set the skull upon the Bible. It makes me wonder if its a statement of "This is your brain on Wt/religion" or he's paying his last respects to his father, in his thought disordered mind.

  I know these type of topics seem a bit sensationalist but I'm one that reads them with interest. I have several relatives that are paranoid schizophrenic and violent. This includes obtaining firearms to use on anyone they feel are a threat when having delusions or hallucinations. I have other relatives with psychiatric conditions that require medication. I can think of ten right off, eight of them associated with JWs.

  My adult daughter, dx with P. Schiz., on meds, lives with me long term. She is, how can I say, a human cult effect barometor. She does not believe many of the JW doctrines, but states she can not shake the fear of Armageddon or Gehenna and will attend the meetings every so often to relieve her conscience. We are careful not to oppose her. I try the 'care for your health & don't stress your self' approach which works the best for her mental & physical health.

  Every time witness relatives show up, someone tries to "encourage her", she goes to a meeting, assembly, attempts FS, she starts in with the delusions and hallucination breaks with reality. She even talks about how its because she starts to feel so guilty and that she's not good enough. When she's away from the religious pressure she stays reality based.

  All the witness relatives have shown up recently and news articles like this(it could have been my daughter) makes me want to vent. The trend I've seen with JW's in their ministry is "head in the sand" & not active encouragement of professional help in this location.

  Edited by - wren on 15 June 2002 3:38:55
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  plmkrzy

  Wren

  She even talks about how its because she starts to feel so guilty and that she's not good enough.

  It took me years to stop feeling guilty. It's amazing how difficult it is to seperate spirituality from the KH.
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  Wren

  plmkrzy, your so right it is difficult. It's hard to watch any person suffering with mental illness: schizophenia, delusions, depression, compulsions to name a few, have the illness intensify because of their religiosity.