Second Toss

by IslandWoman 16 Replies latest jw friends

  • IslandWoman
    IslandWoman

    Second Toss: "Predicting the Future of the World Economy" December 15, 1992

    Third Toss: XXXXX

    Fourth Toss: XXXXX

    Fifth Toss: "Pomegranate Scepter From Jehovah's House?" April 15, 1993

    Sixth Toss: "Why Go to the Ant"? May 15, 1993

    Linda

  • Incense_and_Peppermints
    Incense_and_Peppermints

    why is the watchtower society so tight with their literature? i mean, you never see it on the web, ever. even on their own website, for chrissakes. you gotta write them a freakin' letter just to get anything from them. now why is that, do you suppose? it seems to me that if they are so hell-bent on saving as many non-believers before 'the end', they would view the internet as the perfect tool for helping to achieve that goal. it's like those infomercials. they make you sit through an hour-long demonstration before they finally tell you the price. they think that by that time, you are all primed and already reaching for your wallet...

  • Matty
    Matty
    Predicting the Future of the World Economy

    THE instability of economic markets and a lack of confidence in analysts who failed to predict the 1987 stock market crash have made some businessmen turn to astrology to predict their financial future, claims the London magazine Accountancy Age. The magazine notes that "financial astrologers are gaining an impressive list of prestigious clientele for their detailed market predictions."

    One consultant compares the cycles he detects in 30 years of daily financial data with the movement of the planets. On this basis he offers his predictions. Although many clients were reluctant to heed his advice before 1987, he now finds even hardheaded financiers prepared to listen.

    Another financial astrologer draws charts based on dates of birth to assess a persons character and also to seek out "cues for the timing of likely business developments." Yet another believes that fluctuations of the silver market follow a lunar cycle. But when compared with regular financial analysts, this astrologer finds that his clients give him "very little scope for getting it wrong."

    There is, however, one financial forecast that is sure to come true, and it has nothing to do with astrology. This forecast is registered in the Bible and inspired by Jehovah, the God who gives himself absolutely no "scope for getting it wrong." He is the God "who cannot lie." (Titus 1:2) He had his prophet Ezekiel declare: "Into the streets they will throw their very silver, and an abhorrent thing their own gold will become. Neither their silver nor their gold will be able to deliver them." - Ezekiel 7:19.

    When will this be? During the coming "great tribulation" foretold by Jesus Christ, which Ezekiel termed "the day of Jehovahs fury." (Matthew 24:21; Ezekiel 7:19) Financial prosperity will not secure survival, despite what astrologers may predict. It is only trust in Jehovah God, the Great Deliverer, that can guarantee security during this worldwide upheaval in which all corruption will be removed - political, religious, and commercial. - Proverbs 3:5, 6; Zephaniah 2:3; 2 Peter 2:9.

    Edited by - matty on 15 June 2002 5:32:50

  • obiwan
    obiwan

    Well with all the scams they pull(ie selling kh's)they don't have to worry about money>

  • Matty
    Matty
    Pomegranate Scepter From Jehovahs House?

    ARCHAEOLOGISTS in Israel have uncovered many scepters, rods carried by persons in authority. (Genesis 49:10; Esther 8:4; Ezekiel 19:14) Some scepters found in Lachish had a head in the shape of a pomegranate. Gods people knew this fruit well. - Deuteronomy 8:8; Song of Solomon 4:13.

    The ivory pomegranate in the blossom stage, at left, came to light not long ago. It is 1.68 inches high, and a hole in its base suggests that it was part of a scepter. Note the letters inscribed in the early Hebrew style dated to the eighth century B.C.E.

    Part of the ivory was broken off in ancient times, so a few letters are missing or only partially present. Yet, specialists in ancient writing propose the restoration drawn below. (Based on Biblical Archaeologist) Irregular spacing between the letters has led to two principal readings. French scholar Andre Lemaire offered the reading "Belonging to the Tem[ple of the Lor]d [Yahweh], holy to the priests." Nahman Avigad proposed "Sacred donation for the priests of (in) the House of Yahweh."

    They and other scholars concluded that the scepter originally bore the four Hebrew characters of Gods personal name - Jehovah. So it would have mentioned "the house of Jehovah," a phrase common in the Bible. - Exodus 23:19; 1 Kings 8:10, 11.

    Many still feel that this scepter head may have been owned by a priest at the temple Solomon built or that it was donated to that temple. Interestingly, the pomegranate design was often seen at Gods temple. - Exodus 28:31-35; 1 Kings 7:15-20.

    Edited by - matty on 15 June 2002 5:37:56

  • Matty
    Matty
    Why "Go to the Ant"?

    WISE King Solomon of ancient Israel gave this advice: "Go to the ant." Why did he say this? What can we learn from ants?

    Solomon added: "See [the ants] ways and become wise. Although it has no commander, officer or ruler, it prepares its food even in the summer; it has gathered its food supplies even in the harvest." (Proverbs 6:6-8) Those words of long ago express truths discovered by modern-day naturalists.

    The proverbialist Agur indicates that ants are "instinctively wise." (Proverbs 30:24, 25) Of course, their wisdom is not the product of intelligent reasoning but results from the instincts with which the Creator has endowed them. Because of instinct, for example, ants gather their food at the right time.

    Ants are marvelously organized. Remarkably cooperative and attentive to fellow workers, they assist injured or exhausted ants back to the nest. They instinctively prepare for the future and do everything possible to fulfill their tasks.

    The ant's natural course implies that humans should plan ahead and be hard workers. This applies in school, at work, and in spiritual activities. As the ant benefits from its industriousness, so God wants humans to 'see good for all their hard work.' (Ecclesiastes 3:13, 22; 5:18) Like busy ants, true Christians do a good days work. They 'do with their might what their hands find to do,' not because a boss is watching, but out of honesty and with a desire to be industrious, profitable workers. - Ecclesiastes 9:10; compare Proverbs 6:9-11; see also Titus 2:9, 10.

    We will be happy, indeed, if we "go to the ant" and apply what we learn from it. And the greatest happiness will be ours if we diligently do the will of Jehovah God, as revealed in the Bible.

    Linda, I don't know whether you wanted me to do this or not - I hope you did - as not everyone here has the Watchtower CD ROM, they can't get the full benefit of those little nutty articles at the back of the mags that you cited in your post!

    Edited by - matty on 15 June 2002 5:43:47

  • IslandWoman
    IslandWoman

    Thanks Matty,

    Now if you string the titles (tosses) 1 and 2 together and do the same with 5 and 6 you will see that they make connected statements and ask a question.

    It is statements like these and the resulting question that were sent out to brothers who wrote to the Society. A code was established whereby it could be ascertained if God was leading them to someone who might take the spiritual lead.

    Anyone who picked up on the code and answered the question would then be regarded as sent by God. In other words they used the magazines as "lots" hoping to find someone who was lead by God and would help them.

    I left out two of the "tosses" for identifier purposes.

    Linda

  • LoneWolf
    LoneWolf

    Island Woman --- Thanks for the answer over on the other thread

    Again though, please have some patience with me on this.

    I think many of the "date" threads on the board are mainly speculation, and while I don't think there is anything wrong with that, I"ve usually had something else that fascinated me much more. As a result, I've never really delved into them.

    However, you touch on something here that I find absolutely fascinating. Amazing was recounting on one of his threads a while back of a code that he was supposed to know if he was truly of the heavenly calling and how his hesitation in giving the right answer was construed to mean that he was an imposter. That was the first I've heard of any "codes", and I've been in or around this organization all my life. My first time card was in December of 1946, so that was a while back.

    Now you hint of another code. Are you on the level here, or is this speculation? Also, if this is real, how did you become aware of them?

    I realize that you may have sound reason to not answer, as recounting such experiences are sometimes dangerous and may reveal your identity. However, if you do feel free and are willing, I'd really like to know. My email is open too, and you are more than welcome to use it.

    LoneWolf

  • IslandWoman
    IslandWoman

    LoneWolf,

    There are some at Bethel who trust in God. An attempt to find him was made.

    They unwittingly provided an achilles heal for the Society.

    So be it!

    Linda

  • IslandWoman
    IslandWoman

    LoneWolf,

    I thought you would like to know that the Watchtower letters confirming this thread will be offered for sale to the Society.

    Those letters along with other documentation will be on sale to the Society for 60 days. At the end of that time if they have not come forward to purchase their own letters back then the information contained in them will be published on this DB.

    More important though than the letters, the "code" will be revealed. The "code" was used for a specific period of time and in letters to specific letter writers. Not a few letters were "encoded".

    Silence is golden they say, so true.

    Linda

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