Inactive 3yr, baptised & "expecting&qu...

by lofromchicago 35 Replies latest jw experiences

  • lofromchicago
    lofromchicago

    Well, it worked for 3 years and she was as regular as a clock. But it obviously didn't work this time. It was probably our fault...ha!, probably..it WAS our fault....so anyway, guess we know now....

  • lofromchicago
    lofromchicago

    Well, we've been together for qutie a while and she's not that type of vindictive person. We were both concentrating on our careers and it pissed us off because some of our seperate goals are going to be put on hold. I've seen other women do that type of thing and I'm glad that she has her head on straight when it comes to things like that. At least I'm lucky in that regard...

    Thanks for the input.

  • lofromchicago
    lofromchicago

    Excuse me Grand Dragon,

    I'm sorry. Was there anything in my post that indicated I have "hoes and bitches"? You must be the one of the sarcastic pain in the asses here. Nice to meet you. Remind me to make sure I get you that hood with the two holes cut out for your eyes. I'm sure you'll wear it with pride and joy. In the meantime, why don't you let the grown-ups post in this thread from now on. "Fatherless welfare bastards??" Haha...we make over $200,000 grand combnied a year. You see, that's what happens when you combine education with intelligence, which is more than I can say for you.

    Even educated middle-class people who come from a strong two-parent family make mistakes. Why don't you think about that before you reply to a post with a burning cross in hand. Thanks again for the kind words Nathan (I won't tell anybody about the white sheets missing from your mothers laundry...it'll be our little secret, ok?)

    Ahh...time to climb out of the sandbox.

    Good luck? Congratulations?

    Yeah, we need more fatherless welfare bastards growing up neglected, purposeless, stupid and angry.

    We need more inner-city shooters, crack addicts and rapists.

    How incorrect of me.

    Welcome to the 'hood. BigDaddy! How many babies yo bitches got now?

    Here's hopin that the f*cking you got is worth the f*cking you're gonna get.

  • lofromchicago
    lofromchicago

    Alright kiddie, back into the sandbox. You keep trying to crawl out and play with the big boys. Here's your rattle, blanket, and your bottle. Now let me lay you on your back. Next, we're going to stick with small words and short sentences since you can't comprehend the big words. Here we go:

    1. I will be a good father (I understand if you have to repeat the sentence more than once before you get it).

    2. I will provide love, care, and guidance to my child. (let me know if you need a dictionary for that big "G" word I threw in there)

    3. I will instruct my child to differientiate between racist comments veiled as sarcasm and constructive criticism. (ask the other grown-ups on this board if you have any other questions about this one)

    It's been fun playing with you, but unfortunately I've grown tired of this game of yours. I'm glad we had this little match in wits and sarcasm, but your comments were only amusing for so long. Perhaps you can find another person to play with in a different thread, but I'm through with you. Don't expect any more fuel for your fire.

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    Your kid deserves better than an irresponsible clown father and a ho mom. Try to find a little decency somewhere inside you and give the kid up for adoption to a family (a married man and woman) who will love it and do what is right for it.

    You're not man enough for the job, sonny.

    Get a vasectomy or take an oath to keep your willy wrapped and do Darwin a favor.

  • LB
    LB

    OH they can still DF ya regardless of how much time away. They usually won't though unless you are associating with witnesses.

    I knocked up a girl when I was a freshman in college. Being raised with the do what's right attitude I promptly dropped out and got a job in construction with intentions of going back to school some day. I didn't return although I retired at age 50. I never got to do what I wanted to do though.

    Being a father has it's ups and downs. My marriage lasted a couple of years and I ended up with custody of the two babies we had. She drifted away forever, thankfully.

    Should you get married? Most likely no, but you should be daddy. You did the crime and you should do the time. A fatherless child is not getting the best start in life. You need to be there for that.

    If I had not had children my life would have been very different. I made lots of compromises because of having children and at times I totally regret that. But, I am the father and I had to make the necessary adjustments, so do you.

    You want to kill the baby? Well it's legal. Up to you. I couldn't have done that. My ex-wife wanted to do that. Your choice, baby has none.

  • lofromchicago
    lofromchicago

    Yeah, I know it's legal. I guess my whole view of "it's a life as soon as fertilization occurs" has changed over the course of the years. I guess now I think of it more as the potential for life, but not "alive". Then you get into the issue of when it is considered alive, etc. The whole abortion issue has been tackled from all sides in the past and in years to come. Like I said earlier, the fact that she can feel something growing inside of her has made a big difference and is the major reason why she doesn't want to go through with it. I can understand and respect that. Funny how easy it was to jump on the pro-life bandwagon when the issue wasn't affecting my life directly. But the debate will probably go on forever and the debate can get pretty heated, so I tend to just say "Hey, I respect your views, you respect mine." It doesn't matter how passionately we believe, or what positions we take on the issue, it will always be a "Fact" to us, and a matter of opinion to others.

    My mind isn't a slave to the WTBS anymore, so I could care less about people in the congregation not talking to me. I went to the meetings during the last few years just to shoot my mouth off on the stage anyway. It's the stress it's going to cause my immediate family that I'm most concerned about.

    Thanks.

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    OH they can still DF ya regardless of how much time away. They usually won't though unless you are associating with witnesses.

    I knocked up a girl when I was a freshman in college. Being raised with the do what's right attitude I promptly dropped out and got a job in construction with intentions of going back to school some day. I didn't return although I retired at age 50. I never got to do what I wanted to do though.

    Being a father has it's ups and downs. My marriage lasted a couple of years and I ended up with custody of the two babies we had. She drifted away forever, thankfully.

    Should you get married? Most likely no, but you should be daddy. You did the crime and you should do the time. A fatherless child is not getting the best start in life. You need to be there for that.

    If I had not had children my life would have been very different. I made lots of compromises because of having children and at times I totally regret that. But, I am the father and I had to make the necessary adjustments, so do you.

    You want to kill the baby? Well it's legal. Up to you. I couldn't have done that. My ex-wife wanted to do that. Your choice, baby has none.

  • rmayer32
    rmayer32

    That is a tough position you are in. Personally I think termination is the wrong choice unless there is something wrong with the child that could keep it from living anyway. I don't think it to be wise or nice if you kept it from your parents just because of the JW thing. Basically if your father turns you in then he turns you in. You have been out technically for 3 years anyway and have no aspirations to return so being df'd or whatever officially wouldn't have much impact on you personally I gather. I'm not sure what it would do though to the relationship with your family if anything at all. I would hope they still would have a relationship with you but unfortunately when it comes to these situations there is so little that we can control

    -Rick

  • Nathan Natas
    Nathan Natas

    Oh, hey man, I'm sorry; you came here for a pat on the the back and a cheerful, "Way to go, Bushmaster!"

    Good thing you can hang out with SpiderMonkey - he thinks what you did is fine.

    How audacious of me to suggest that maybe you've behaved badly.

    That might injure you self-seteeem, might it?

    I must have hurt your delicate and refined sensibilities. I _AM_ so sorry.

    You will have a wonderful, happy life, and all your fatherless children will grow up praising your name. You'll be looked up to as a shining example of true manhood and virility: an example they will no doubt want to emulate.

    Unless about 20 years from now your kid tracks you down and punishes you for your actions.

    What am I saying? I got all crazy again, dude - sorry!

    Cheers man!

    Keep it up!!

    Edited by - Nathan Natas on 1 July 2002 2:4:47

  • saltiest
    saltiest

    I know with every case things are different, but I didn't get disfellowshipped for having my daughter while not being married. I have been out of the Borg for seven years now, and had my daughter this last December. No contact yet from any of the elders or whatnot from my old congregation even though I was living in the same area. I really don't care if they DF me, but I was a bit surprised they didn't try since it was blatantly obvious I went against their oh so precous teachings.

    I am lucky, in that the father of my child is still with me, and has done everything possible to give our daughter a home and everything she needs. It's not easy, as both of our careers have been pushed back somewhat, but we're doing it for her. I commend you for wanting to stick around and help raise, guide and be a father. So few do. I also agree that getting married is not always the appropriate answer.

    Best wishes, and I hope everything works out.

    Alicia

  • larc
    larc

    Lofromchichicago, Well here are your choices: 1. Kill the kid. 2. Live in a loveless marriage. 3. Send money to the mom and see the kid on two weekends a month. I feel sorry for you.

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