WORLD TO END 2050 - women, poor hardest hit

by Nathan Natas 14 Replies latest jw friends

  • drahcir yarrum
    drahcir yarrum

    When an educated person knows the facts about the environment in the United States and how it has been cleaned up over the past 30-40 years one begins to realize the utter nonsense that exists in the environmentalist RELIGION.

    Americans who travel overseas always seem to have interesting stories about the crappy environmental conditions in Europe and Asia. It's very amusing when Euros piss on the United States about such matters.

    But if some of our European betters don't believe the United States is a better place to live then PLEASE DON'T MOVE HERE.

  • Paradiselost
    Paradiselost
    Using 1970 as a baseline year and giving it a value of 100, the index has dropped to a new low of around 65 in the space of a single generation.

    Hasn't the WTBTS been perfectly clear on the definition of a generation. The 30 to 40 year definition is old light. The WWF must be apostates.

  • BeautifulGarbage
    BeautifulGarbage

    2050 eh?

    From an essay I printed on another thread.

    http://www.weeklystandard.com/Content/Public/Articles/000/000/000/525pggsa.asp

    Just this one paragraph:

    Enough oil is known to exist in the United States to maintain current production levels for about 10 years, and in Canada for about 8 years; the Saudis can tap their reserves for over 80 years without slowing output. There is worse: It is well known that the Saudis haven't really attempted to explore for new reserves because they already know precisely where some 260 billion barrels are located. "

    Apparently, people will still be able to drive their cars.

    Andee

  • Satanus
    Satanus

    As janh showed, coal used to be the big energy source. People were predicting doomsday for when it ran out. So too, w oil. New energy sources are already available. Probably one source, being made available to everyone, will make oil outdated as a source for energy. Of course it could still be used for plastics, although corn oil could change that too. Doomsdayers will find other things to crow about.

    SS

  • Stephanus
    Stephanus

    JanH,

    I couldn't have put it better myself: if the resources are being depleted, how come their prices are going down? My guess is that we are probably using more coal (for power generation and steelmaking) today than we were 150 years ago (even though it was the "Age of Steam"), and yet coal mine closure is a big issue in this day and age (I live in a coal mining area - hardly any mines were worth keeping open) due to the low price of coal. Environmentalists pooh-pooh the issue of lowering resource costs, yet cost is a function of scarcity. If costs of all resources across the board are getting lower over time, in real terms, then we a creating more resources, not using them up.

    And what is a resource? A type of wood or mineral ore or plant extract is not a resource until we discover a use for it. People used to be frightened we'd run out of copper at the rate we were laying cables all over the place. Now we are using fibre optics (glass), and sand is a very abundant resource.

    Have a look at today's Junkscience.com ; the article which inspired this thread is listed there. Listed immediately underneath it is this article in the economist; how's that for balance?

    In addition, I'd like to add that this is a sore point with me. Like others here have said, I grew up hearing this sort of thing all the time. My father was an environmentalist before it became trendy, so growing up in our environmentally aware household was probably not unlike growing up in the Dubs - there was an air of gloom and doom about the future. As a kid, I honestly didn't expect to live to see adulthood. I expected to die in some kind of environmental disaster (famine, disease, pollution, etc.) or nuclear holocaust. My family are still spouting the same crap, but I've looked around, remembering the dire predictions from the early seventies about what 2000 would be like. None of those predictions came true. Pollution in most major cities is becoming less of a problem, as standards are raised, and as car engines become more efficient. There are twice as many people on this planet as when I was born, yet they are being fed from the same amount of land under cultivation. The West, contrary to the crap spouted in the article which started this thread, is reforesting at a rate of knots.

    The person who said that the title is like one from a Watchtower is right; it's alarmist and basically full of bullshit. Have these wankers sat down to think just how many resources are going to be needed to colonise two new planets??

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