Witnesses Not Budging on 1914

by stevieb1 28 Replies latest jw friends

• 

  stevieb1

  Just attended the Sunday of the Zealous Kingdom Proclaimers District Convention in Manchester, England and during the final talk we had an update on the world situation as it relates to Jehovah's Witnesses. The speaker was Peter Ellis, a member of the London Bethel Branch Committee.

  He stated that many had been waiting for Armageddon for some years and some have become disappointed that it hasn't yet arrived, and that newer JW's did not seem to have the same degree of faith as some of the old-timers in the faith, hence this was of serious concern. Then he said something along the lines of 1914 being set in stone and that the organization was not going to get any new light on this key doctrine, hence we can be sure that Armageddon is very near.

  Interesting don't you think?
• 

  expatbrit

  Then he said something along the lines of 1914 being set in stone and that the organization was not going to get any new light on this key doctrine, hence we can be sure that Armageddon is very near.

  It is interesting. But....this is what they always say about "key doctrines", until they change them. Then, of course, they become "minor adjustments." The generation change in 1995 is a prime example.

  Expatbrit
• 

  Simon

  They have pretty much hung their entire ideology on ye olde 1914 which explains why they are so determined to defend it whatever the evidence. Of course they have to defend the shakey 607 date which the 1914 date rests upon.

  It won't be long until it's 2014 and it will be 100 years old!

  Already they have been 'proclaiming the end' for over 120 years! How long does it have to be before they will accept that THEY ARE WRONG?!!
• 

  Pureheart

  Hi Stevie,

  of course they can set 1914, because the stone is invisible.

  Pureheart
• 

  hillary_step

  Hello,

  The speaker was Peter Ellis, a member of the London Bethel Branch Committee.

  You must remember that Peter Ellis is part of the 'Old Guard' and though his views reflect without compromise the views of the majority of the GB, they do not neccessarily represent the views of the 'New Guard', who in the words of one member of a European Branch Committee are playing a "wait and see" game.

  Those who have been trapped in the eternal theological sound-loop of Brooklyn and Mill Hill for long decades can hardly be counted on to offer any progressive insight into what is presently happening at the ground roots of WTS life. The 'JW's are not what they used to be' comment is indicative of a desperation as these 'pillars of fault' gradually lose control of the lives of their adherents.

  Peter, you were no fun then and I suspect that you are even less fun now!

  HS
• 

  singsongboi

  kekekekekekekekekekekekekekekekekekekekekekekekekekekekekekekekeekekekekekekekekekekekekekekekek!!
• 

  Nowfree

  Is he still alive??? They must be propping him up from behind just to keep him standing on the platform!

  It may also be that the Gov. Bod. are aware of the mass group of exJWs who are ready to pounce on anything they say, any changes they introduce. So they have to be doubly sure that any manouvering on their part can at least be introduced quietly so that WE don't notice it and give them a rough ride.

  I am convinced the WT society NEVER use to get this amount of hassle from exJWs - personally I blame(!) the internet!!!!

  Nowfree
• 

  dmouse

  That settles it then, 1914 is set to be dropped as soon as the old guard pass on.
• 

  BluesBrother

  I remember Peter Ellis from way back when he was District Overseer in the 1970's, He must be knocking on now !

  It is interesting why he said that they would not budge on 1914. Is that an admission that some have questioned it? Has he been reading this dreaded internet? Perhaps a "Silver surfer"
• 

  nativenyr23

  "1914 being set in stone and that the organization was not going to get any new light on this key doctrine."

  ummm...not sure but, did he get Advance Notification that they would NOT be receiving new light on this issue? Seems to me the whole idea of "new light" is that it's NEW and unexpected. How the hell would HE know that they will not receive NEW light on this particular issue?