The elder at my door today........omg

by LyinEyes 17 Replies latest jw friends

  • LyinEyes
    LyinEyes

    Ok, bear with me, I am a little shook up. Most everyone knows we just left town one day to work, and never went back to the kingdom hall. That was over a year ago.

    The one elder who I still hold dear to my heart and my husband feels the same, just came by . I feel pretty bad today anyway and was not dressed. He ask how I am doing, I tell him I have a dr. appt and can't talk long, I dont invite him in , not dressed. Standing there at the door, he ask if we got the new books from the convention. I told him another barely active sister, was going to give them to me. He said he had them in the car and made a special trip to say hi and see if we wanted the books.

    I couldnt say no. What the hell is wrong with me? He got the books and told me the new ones was taking the place of the united book and this other one draw close to Jehovah focuses on the 4 main attributes of Jehovah. He said he knows Denny ( wild turkey) will love this one, it is deep and thought provoking he said. I finally know what a householder feels like now, being given the spill.

    I thanked him and accepted his books, they are sitting here and my hands are shaking, just to see the books , and hold them, make me so afraid. What if I read it and get sucked back in by it? I just wont read them. But will my curiosity get the better of me?

    I know this is not really some great big deal, but in away it is , it breaks my heart to know that this elder just will never understand why we left. He will one day not be able to speak to us, I can live with that. But the man has tears in his eyes , and he is one of the ones who seem to care. He told me he wants wild turkey to call him and he really wants to see him. I wonder if we are about to be seriously investigated and point blank asked questions they really don't want to ask us?

    Thanks for listening to me vent. Wild turkey is on his way home, and will probably be a little sad too because he loved his elder , still loves this man, and the whole situation is just strange.

    Weird thing too, they asked how my son was doing, my 15 yr old. That is the first time they have even asked about him. What do you think they are up to?

  • LB
    LB

    What do you think they are up to?

    Not every elder is evil, most in fact are decent people. My guess is he wants you back at meetings. Maybe you'll become a project of his?

    Also you've always got to remember he is an elder and if he were to see something going on of a disfellowshipping nature, then you'll get the call.

  • Dismembered
    Dismembered

    Dear LyinEyes,

    Just read your post and was compelled to respond. The feelings you and your husband have for the "one elder", in my opinion, is quite normal. Feelings of genuine camaraderie are a fact, depending on the relationship one has, or had with an individual. So don't blame yourself for feeling a bit awkward due to his surprised visit. Sounds to me like he caught you a bit off guard.

    As far as he offering you the publications, well that's just WTBS protocol. He was doing the "elder " thing, and you were just to nice to say no. There is nothing wrong with you. A year in passing since not going back to the KH is not long at all. Your feelings of nervousness are quite normal, again in my opinion. Just hang in there. Don't say to much and they will go away, if you get my drift.

    my .02 worth

  • Jourles
    Jourles

    Next time, ask him what happened to the section on Blood.

  • crawdad2
    crawdad2

    hi lyin,

    where was he for one whole year?...... if he is so concerned?.....he may be a nice guy, but he is loyal to the plan of the gov body.............. the gov body knows they are being attacked by so called apostates, and they are rounding them up........ they are being forced to make written policy changes about molesters and they don't like it.........

    the effect it is going to have is that they are going to disfellowship alot of sincere persons who question them,... or persons they know who have left, but still might have some influence on the congregation.......... the written policy changes on molesters are producing this, even though hillary thinks the written changes will cause children to be protected.......... they are cleaning up the organization......

  • William Penwell
    William Penwell

    He maybe playing the good copp role here. Also don't forget he is counting the time as a shepherding call. So don't get too sucked into his guilt trip he is pulling on you.

    Will

    Edited by - William Penwell on 10 July 2002 16:48:30

  • worf
    worf

    LyinEyes,

    Please listen to what jjrizo explained. I'm not saying the elder you spoke of is not a nice guy, but he is being used as bait right now even if he is not aware of it. I firmly believe his visit is the preliminary action to find some way to "get " you and your husband so that they can eventually keep others from talking to you.

    I was an elder for 7 years and the same tactics were used on me when I stopped going. The borg is in seige mindset and elders have been instructed to keep the "flock" away from anyone who questions anything or whose actions might show that they have a "problem" with the organization even if they just quietly walk away from it. I have been told this by a few who were in the org in recent times.And if you read Thirty Years A Watchtower Slave BY Schnell, you'll see they used the same tactics from the 1920's on up. Its nothing new.

    Worf

    Edited by - worf on 10 July 2002 16:52:40

  • Stealth
    Stealth

    What if I read it and get sucked back in by it? I just wont read them. But will my curiosity get the better of me?

    If you start to feel like your getting sucked back in read the section on "Does god have an organization today" That should get you nausiated enough to bring you back to reality.

    -S

  • Jim_TX
    Jim_TX

    Lyin,

    <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<< HUG >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

    You'll be okay. Just take it easy, and when your husband gets home go get a real hug from him.

    Sorry, I can't be too helpful with the right words - but I think that others here have pretty much said a lot of good words.

    Regards,

    Jim TX

  • SYN
    SYN

    Just because good people can be warped by a cult doesn't mean they're not good people anymore. However, you can tell many things about the soul of a person by their actions.

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