BBC LIVE Email ForumStarts In 30 Minutes!

by Englishman 13 Replies latest jw friends

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  Englishman

  OK, just seen it on BBC1 digital. That's channel 101 (BBC1) red button, down to live.

  Bill Bowen was grilled by the questioner, as was the lady presenter of last nights programme.

  Bill Bowen was magnificent, remember this was LIVE TV. He was questioned as to whether it was only ex's who had contributed to the programme, he responded that no victim was a df's person.

  The lady presenter was asked if all the victims / abusers were from old cases long ago, she said no, one was as recent as last Thursday.

  Englishman.
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  invisible

  Aghhhhhh letting off steam, can't get the ruddy components to view the forum, damn!! I wanted so much to take part in this. What is happening?

  Mark
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  abbagail

  I got the last 15 minutes of it! It was FANTASTIC! The only problem for me is they talk so fast, and the English accents are hard to understand. I had my ear right up to my laptop speaker. ;) Real Player works, though admittedly, it was hard for me to figure it out last night, but finally got it working. I wish I could remember all they said. It was toooo good, and the lady reporter, man, she is ONE TOUGH CHICK! She doesn't take any bull from anybody, and is very straightforward.

  What Englishman said, how they asked if these were all "old" cases, Bill said, No Way, that he had 12 new cases since the show aired last night. (Man, he must have been up all night. I bet he's pooped!)

  I'm thinking we will be able to watch it again, for up to seven days. Seems like I read somewhere that the Panorama program you could view it up to seven days after broadcast. So it should probably be the same with this program.

  This is the correct link:
  http://news.bbc.co.uk/hi/english/audiovideo/programmes/panorama/live_forums/newsid_2124000/2124808.stm

  and click on the "56k" link on that page, and it will download the now4.ram (document) which when you click on that, it opens up Real Player if you have it already installed/downloaded on your computer.

  And after you watch it, don't forget to submit a comment to the BBC:
  http://news.bbc.co.uk/hi/english/audiovideo/programmes/panorama/newsid_855000/855727.stm#form

  BECAUSE the host of the show (the gentleman) asked Bill if he was aware or had had the time to read all of the comments at the forum by the current-JWs who were bashing the show, bashing Bill, bashing the Panorama's credibility, etc. etc. Then Bill answered that JWs are known to engage in writing campaigns wherein they will all email each other and then everyone will jump on (whatever event) EN MASSE. Toooo good! Because that is so true. I remember hearing the talks in the service meetings for us to write letters and I remember writing some myself (long before the internet/email), whenever there was trouble with the governments down in South America, back in the 80's. I can't remember the specifics.

  Anyway, it was a great show! I'm going to see if I can watch it again.

  Later/GRITS
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  abbagail

  Oh yea... I remembered a few more things from the show this morning (morning my time, that is):

  First, the subject came up as to whether there really was a database of 23,720 names, so the lady reporter from Panorama (I gotta get her name right -- her initials are PB), well PB spoke right up and clear as a bell stated without hesitation something like this: "The Bethel did NOT DENY they had a database, so we KNOW they have one."

  Then the host asked Bill, "Why don't the police just go raid the WTS and get the database and those names? Is that illegal in your country?" So Bill explained that yes, they, as a religion, were protected under the Constitution.

  At another moment, they asked Bill "Why are you doing this?" or something like that, so he explained (again) that he has no beef whatsoever with the WTS about beliefs or doctrines, but ONLY the POLICY re: pedophiles, since he knows of a pedophile, RIGHT NOW, in his area who is a member in good standing who is out going door to door.

  Bill also brought up about how the WTS says they are "monitoring" all the people whose names are on their database/pedophiles. So Bill asked, HOW can they MONITOR THEM? They let them go door to door with other JWs who have NO IDEA WHATSOEVER that they are working in the field with a pedophile, so HOW can that JW be "monitoring" the perv??? -- Go getum Bill! That was good!

  Then the host asked a question, reading from an email, of a father who has 2 daughters and he wants to know how he would be able to find out if there were any pervs in their congregation, so the host asked Bill, "How would this father get that info? If he asked would they tell him?" Bill said, of course, that he can always go to the elders and ask, but that NOBODY, NONE of the JW publishers are privy to that info of who is/isn't a pedophile, so Bill doubts seriously the father would be able to get the information. Then Bill said that at the SL website there is the Pinpoint a Pedophile section, and from that he has been provided names of many many around the globe, and that the father could always contact SL and Bill could look at his list to see if he is aware of any particular pervs in that particular congregation.

  Later/GRITS