by Englishman 44 Replies latest jw friends
I know I shouldn't be, but I'm getting a little uncomfortable with all this talk about how much of a weasel, sharkish, schmuckish, etc. "TJ" is. Just for clarification, TJ and "teejay" are two totally different folks.
Uh... could we call him Ted, Teddy, Jaracz, The Governing Body Member or SOMETHING OTHER THAN TJ?????
Very interesting Nanoprobe, thanks for posting that.
However, the fact remains that the database of pedophiles that the Society keep is in the U.S. What possible relevence does the European directive have in this case?
No, I think Jaracz was floundering and said the first thing that came into his head, which was bovine excrement.
I thought about that as well, Eman. It has to be privacy laws/data protection. However, if criminal activity is concerned, I don't think the miscreants can rely on such things. Consider a bank,doctor,accountant could all breach confidentialities if you were involved in criminality. Why consider the rights of a paedophile to be worth more than the victims?
ISP
What TJ meant is really anybody's guess. Only his most fanatical worshippers will not see it was an embarrassing display and a PR flop.
TJ has for decades been almost worshipped inside the WTS system. He has been in charge of millions of blind followers. He is always treated like a king, and he certainly knows how to fist his way around in internal church politics. He does, however, only have theoretical knowledge about the rest of the world. When he meets people who do not give him the reverence he thinks he deserves, he is simply unable to deal with it. Thus such a totally braindead reply from a person who is everything but.
- Jan
I don't see how his statements would apply but I bet there's a clause in there somewhere for the legal experts at WTS to hide behind. Remember Ted said, " You're from Britian aren't you?" first off
d) Data Transfers: The data transfers policy restricts authorized users of personal information from transferring that information to third parties without the permission of the individual providing the data , or data subject. In the case of data transfers across national boundaries, the Directive prohibits data transfers outright to any country lacking an "adequate level of protection," as determined by the EU.
Hey Nanoprobe....I think you will find criminality is excluded! Particularly after 9/11.
ISP
This is simply my take on his comments. Keeping in mind these guys are mere parrots. Original thought isn't a quality on the current GB.
The not going beyond the things written is an exhortation used frequently by Service Deska nd the Legal Dept. They have misapplied that scripture over and over to imply that when elders receive instructions they should do as they are told and not go beyond the things written (in the BOE letter).
I took Jaracz' comments to mean, we sent you a letter that is our answer and you'll get nothing more from me since I don't go beyond what has been written. Again implying that the Society's letter is somehow 'gospel.'
His arrogance and cold heartedness was appaling but not surprising. It was typical Jaracz.
Kismet
"Focusing on numbers isn't meaningful" they said.
Did anyone else notice this rediculous statement? When Bill mentioned the number of pedophiles on file their response was assinine given the fact that they have historically been obsessed with numbers.
Sorry for that last messed up comment. Can't edit it
Ted's wording leads me to believe he was referring to the The EU Directive on Data Protection
The EU Directive on Data Protection , which came into force in 1998, instructs the EU member states to prevent the transfer of personal data to third countries where laws safeguarding privacy are not deemed "adequate." As the United States lacks uniform privacy laws, protection for personal data transferred from the EU to the U.S. is not considered adequate," and thus, transfers to the U.S. could potentially be suspended by EU authorities.
Can't transfer EU info to the US, but can transfer US info to the EU, unless some US Privacy law forbids it, too. But it really doesn't make complete sense, does it?
I've spent quite a few of my years listening to what Jaracz and his fellow "merry kings" have to say.
I actually have a little something to tell him:
http://www.jehovahs-witness.com/forum/thread.asp?id=32174&site=3
I challenge him to prove these comments and those of others wrong--publicly.
