New David Splane Video: No 1900 Year Faithful Slave (page 3)

freemindfade

Maybe soon they will admit 'Jehovah' is a mediocre invention of the Catholic Church

Also I believe doctrine has been replaced with a labyrinth of fantastic ideas no R&F can follow or explain.

StarTrekAngel

Well, since I am at it, might as well post my thoughts.

Seems to me that this statement, if spread around enough, give the GB another weapon to dismiss old writtings, dismiss most of Russel's publications if it compromises them. Anyone who can try to blame the FDS for old understanding can be now dismissed. Old teachings that can not be re evaluated under any light, are now open to questioning if they so desire.

Doltologist

Goingthruthemotions:

Man, it's just fictional writing in an ever changing cult that is loosing grasp of it's followers.

An it's grip on reality too.

blondie

addition, if they are going back to the 2008 view on "This Generation," that means they'll say Jesus promised their would be anointed on earth until 70 C.E. but not afterward.

Did Jesus promise that? Where....you do realize that the WTS teaches that the Apostle John lived to at least 98 CE when he wrote the 3 epistles of John. The WTS teaches that the apostles were the barrier to the apostasy and when the last one died, there was no longer an "organization" supported by God until 1874 (Russell).

*** Kingdom Approached chap. 17 p. 344 par. 29 The "Slave" Who Lived to See the "Sign" ***

As to just how the "faithful and discreet slave" class existed and served down through the centuries after the death of the apostles of the Master Jesus Christ, we do not have a distinct historical picture. Apparently one generation of the "slave" class fed the next succeeding generation thereof.
My question is who were the "faithful slave" or anointed or the "wheat" between 100 and 1879 AD? Especially just before Russell appeared. Was it the Second Day Adventists who "helped" him?
Watch how the WTS dances around this question.
*** (Proclaimers) jv chap. 5 p. 44 Proclaiming the Lord’s Return (1870-1914) ***But what about “the wheat”? Who were among “the sons of the kingdom” during the centuries-long apostasy? We cannot say for a certainty. The literal weeds of Jesus’ illustration are generally considered to be bearded darnel, which very much resembles wheat until maturity, when it can readily be distinguished from wheat by its smaller black seeds. Similarly, only at “the harvest” would a clear distinction be made between imitation Christians and the true “sons of the kingdom.” Nevertheless, Jesus said: “Let both grow together until the harvest.” True Christianity, then, was never completely stamped out.
Throughout the centuries there have always been truth lovers. To mention just a few: John Wycliffe (c. 1330-1384) and William Tyndale (c. 1494-1536) furthered the work of Bible translation even at the risk of their life or freedom. Wolfgang Fabricius Capito (1478-1541), Martin Cellarius (1499-1564), Johannes Campanus (c. 1500-1575), and Thomas Emlyn (1663-c. 1741) accepted the Bible as God’s Word and rejected the Trinity. Henry Grew (1781-1862) and George Storrs (1796-1879) not only accepted the Bible and rejected the Trinity but also expressed appreciation for the ransom sacrifice of Christ.
Although we cannot positively identify any of such persons as “the wheat” of Jesus’ illustration, certainly “Jehovah knows those who belong to him.” —2 Tim. 2:19.

*** re chap. 6 p. 31 par. 17 Unlocking a Sacred Secret ***Nevertheless, through all the centuries of apostasy, there would exist individual wheatlike Christians, genuine anointed ones.

------------so if these are only a FEW INDIVIDUALS where is the organization or governing body? or a slave class? or a slavelike congregation?

*** re chap. 11 p. 57 par. 11 Is Your Name in the Book of Life? ***Likewise, when professed Christians were absorbed into Babylon the Great, the world empire of false religion, during the long centuries of the great apostasy, there must always have been a few individuals who tried, against great odds, to do Jehovah’s will.

*** w00 10/15 p. 30 Working in the “Field”—Before the Harvest ***The “field” that Jesus described in the parable of the wheat and the weeds was not quite ready to be harvested. (Matthew 13:38) Grew, Storrs, and others were working in the “field” in preparation for the harvest.

*** w75 1/15 p. 46 How Are Christians Spiritually Fed? ***Jesus Christ is the Head of the congregation, his slave, and his words show that he would strengthen them to feed his “domestics” right down through the centuries. Apparently one generation of the “slave” class fed the succeeding generation thereof, as well as continuing to feed themselves.

*** w81 3/1 p. 24 Do You Appreciate the “Faithful and Discreet Slave”? ***Beginning with Pentecost, 33 C.E., and continuing through the 19 centuries since then, this slavelike congregation has been feeding its members spiritually, doing so faithfully and discreetly.

DATA-DOG

Great comparison, WiFibandit!! The hypocrisy of these assholes knows no boundaries!!

They DF'd people in the 80s for saying that the "Slave" teaching was incorrect. Now the apostasy is the "truth." I can't wait to mention this flip-flop.

Blind a-holes leading the blind. So what if they speak well of Catholicism?? They are ALL part of the Xian scam. JWism, Catholicism, just heads of the Hydra. Cut one off, and two more take its place.

DD

blondie

As far as any leeway for Christendom (any so-called Christian religion except the WTS) before 1919 but that they were judged no longer having God's favor. But the WTS misunderstanding continued even after that. Staring early the WTS said that religion would be destroyed in 1920 and certainly in 1925 and later in 1975 and SOON although it has been 40 years since then.

*** w92 12/1 p. 13 par. 6 “Bring All the Tenth Parts Into the Storehouse” ***

When did this happen? According to substantial evidence available, in 1918. What was the result? As for Christendom, Jehovah saw an organization whose hands dripped with blood, a corrupt religious system that had prostituted herself to this world, allying herself with the wealthy and oppressing the poor, teaching pagan doctrines rather than practicing pure worship. (James 1:27; 4:4)

FusionTheism

Thank you Blondie and WiFi for showing all of their old incorrect views on this.

I'm wondering which direction they will decide to go after releasing this video?

It COULD be the first step toward a much more moderate view of the other churches, saying that they may simply be "misunderstanding the Bible," and thus could possibly be forgiven by Jehovah.

Also, it seems very much like David Splane is the man in charge of looking at all of their old doctrine and "fixing it," since he also gave the big New Light talk about the Types and Antitypes.

FusionTheism

Also, another comment by David Splane was that people at Bethel must not start getting the idea that since we know Jehovah wouldn't allow a good-hearted person to be destroyed, that there is no urgency to our preaching work.

He likened that to the Predestination beliefs of the Reformers.

But, if you think really deeply and logically about this:....

If it is JW theology that Jehovah will not abandon any truly good-hearted person, then what is the urgency to the preaching work?

I suppose it would just mean that Jehovah would have many FEWER evangelizers to use to reach the good-hearted people, and thus it would make the preaching work much more difficult and exhausting for those FEW.

freemindfade

Jehovah wouldn't allow a good-hearted person to be destroyed,

Then what is the point of the preaching work at all???

New David Splane Video: No 1900 Year Faithful Slave

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