LETTERS OF OUTRAGE TO GOVERNING BODY

by orangefatcat 34 Replies latest jw friends

  • orangefatcat
    orangefatcat

    I think we need some one to set the lead, for guidance. Is their anyone who like to volunteer as to how we can accomplish this as a group, or are we going to do it on an individual bases? I figured that as a group en masse would make a tremendous impact. Can we do this? Anyone?

    Would someone like to give a suggestion as to how we should outline our letters. Should we basically say the same things? or each of us say our own thing. Remember unitification of thought is paramount, to this cause.

    Input please!!

    Orangefatcat

    Terry

  • orangefatcat
    orangefatcat

    I think we need some one to set the lead, for guidance. Is their anyone who like to volunteer as to how we can accomplish this as a group, or are we going to do it on an individual bases? I figured that as a group en masse would make a tremendous impact. Can we do this? Anyone?

    Would someone like to give a suggestion as to how we should outline our letters. Should we basically say the same things? or each of us say our own thing. Remember unification of thought is paramount, to this cause.

    Input please!!

    Orangefatcat

    Terry

  • Mary
    Mary

    Here's something I whipped up.......obviously, we're not all going to say the exact same thing, but I think the main points should be: change the ridiculous "two witness" rule, they're acting like the Pharisees, they're no better, and are in fact worse, than the Catholic Church.....if they think Jehovah is blessing them, think again..............

    ".........I am writing to you in response to the decision to disfellowship Bill Bowan, Barbara Anderson and others from the congregation, for their courage to go public about the pedophile "problem" in the Organization that has reached epidemic proportions.

    To begin with, I cannot believe you, the Governing Body, are quoting Deut. 19:15 and Matthew 18:16 to try and justify your position on we cant do anything unless there is testimony from at least two witnesses. To be quite blunt: what planet are you on? Child molestation is ALWAYS done in private; its NEVER done in front of anyone because the pig whos doing the raping, knows full well its a crime that could see him thrown into prison for life! You think theyre going to let anyone else know whats going on? How often do we hear from the victims later on in life that the molester told them that what he was doing to them was "a secret" and that the child "couldnt tell anybody" or "something bad" might happen either to them or a member of their family?

    I watched the Dateline program as well as the Panorama program and I was absolutely disgusted at the way victims of child molestation are treated when they report a supposed "Christian" in the congregation to the police because the elders will do NOTHING about it. Do you have any idea how pathetic we appeared to millions of viewers when it was shown that many from the congregation show up to support the rapist, but not one single Witness showed up to support the victim?! Not only are the victims shown no support, but they are treated like apostates. Could we possibly be any more pathetic?

    Weve had several articles in the magazines over the years on how to educate your children about the evils of pedophilia, but unfortunately, the facts clearly show that you pay lip service to the welfare of children and obeisance to the "image" of the religion, as clearly shown in the media. In that respect, were no different than the Catholic church and every elder thats ever covered up a case like this is no different than Cardinal Law. In fact, you are behaving worse than the Catholic Church, because your main goal seems to be getting rid of anyone whom you deem as a threat for exposing your hypocritical and often criminal behavior. Instead of contacting the police, disfellowshipping the molester and comforting the victim, the whole thing will be swept under the carpet (especially if the accused is an elder), and the victim treated like an apostate if they dare to try and do the right thing by reporting a criminal act to the police.

    Do you really think for one second that Jehovah is "blessing your efforts"? If you do, then youre only deluding yourself. Jehovah does not reward men who pat themselves on the back, while sacrificing children on the altar of their public image. Your reaction to someone exposing you for what you really are, is no different than that of the Pharisees. Jesus exposed them for their hypocrisy, their deceitfulness, their arrogance and their refusal to admit fault on anything they did. And what was their reaction? Not one of humbleness and a need for change, but rather that of hatred. Hatred for the person exposing them. They conspired with each other, had false charges read against Him, and they got rid of him, because He was a threat to the power they had over the masses and this is exactly what youre trying to do to anyone who exposes you.

    Whats really pathetic about this whole sordid affair, is that there was no need for any of this to happen, To pretend that child molestation doesnt go on in our religion is stupid: it goes on in every single religious organization on earth, simply because youve got imperfect people in every single religious organization on earth.

    If child molesters in the congregation were pursued with the same gusto and enthusiasm as those that buy lottery tickets or question any of the doctrines put forth by the Governing Body, then youd be doing something worthwhile. Then, when the scandal from the Catholic Church erupted, we could have truly said look at us, we dont put up with pedophiles, we kick them out and report them to the authorities. Unfortunately, this hasnt happened and now you have to reap what youve sown.............and you wonder why so many have left and continue to leave the Organization.

    Unless changes are made immediately, then you will continued to be mocked in the press and harried by Witnesses demanding to know whats going on. You can only use the "its apostates persecuting us" for so long. Its going to ALL come out in the wash and its not going to just blow over either. None of you have done anything to prevent any of this, youve behaved neither "faithful" nor "discreet" and you should all hang your heads in shame.

    And if you think that Jehovah is going to reward any of you with eternal life in heaven ruling with Christ, think again. You might be able to convince yourselves that youre "approved" by God, or are part of the "Faithful and Discreet Slave", but your actions have proven otherwise. Come Judgement Day, theres no doubt many of you will be trying to plead your case before Jesus, and will be totally stunned when you hear: "I never knew you. Get away from me, you workers of lawlessness......"

  • Beans
    Beans

    Terry:

    Stop this outrageous Apostateness, go in service and use your time more wisley sister!

    Beans

  • Dia
    Dia

    Regarding 'individual witnesses in our towns' - we could leaflet their windshields in the JW parking lots at meeting times. Or leaflet other public places in the town - laundromats, grocery stores, libraries - it will all get back to them eventually. And behind closed doors....you know they will sneak a peek.....

    Edited by - Dia on 26 July 2002 23:32:3

  • apostate
    apostate

    Here are a few Watchtower e-mail addresses you can write to.

    [email protected]
    [email protected]
    [email protected]
    [email protected]
    [email protected]
    [email protected]
    [email protected]
    [email protected]
    [email protected]
    [email protected]
    [email protected]
    [email protected]
    [email protected]

    You can leave brief messages on their contact page:
    https://watch001.securesites.com/contact/submit.htm

    e.g.
    First: Stop protecting
    Last: Child Abusers
    Street Address: J.R. Brown
    City: is a liar
    etc.

    Someone will read your messages at Bethel.

  • abbagail
    abbagail

    Wow, Apostate Person, that's great putting those email addresses there! And I loved your "fill in the blank" answers! LOL!

    Mary, great letter!!

    I think it's good to offer up a few outlines for letters since many of us are brain dead.

    Also, FireDragon said on the 1st page of this thread: "Let's use their own medicine against them. Flood them with scriptures..." I think that is an EXCELLENT STRATEGY, like in bro Joe Anderson's letter, he used scriptures. Hey, they may not listen, but it's a good witness all the same. Has anyone already in the past typed up or scanned in a list of scriptures that would pertain to the WTS sex abuse coverup, the df'ings, etc.? If so, would you please add them to this thread?

    And in your letters, a suggestion (maybe should ask B.Bowen first?) but we should implore/ask the GB if they intend to meet with B.Bowen and the Silent Lambs on 9/27/02, since in one of bill's letters he said something to the effect that according to GB policy, he was seeking to see them to discuss inhouse policy; and now that he's DF, he could still seek "spiritual guidance" from his spiritual shepherds, right? (I bet 100% that's why they DF'd him because they don't want a JW in "good standing" to be on their doorstep on 9/27/02!)

    And don't forget to send a copy of ALL LETTERS to your Media of Choice! Dateline, Panorama, to your local newspaper's Letters to the Editor, etc.

    There are several threads going on this topic: This one:
    Letters of Outrage to Governing Body: http://www.jehovahs-witness.com/forum/post.asp?id=437471&method=reply&site=3

    And Amazing has a similar thread going also: Need Help - New JW Pedophile Project < http://www.jehovahs-witness.com/forum/thread.asp?id=33163&site=3>;

    And DakotaRed's letter to the WTS is located at: http://www.jehovahs-witness.com/forum/thread.asp?id=33198&site=3

    And MacHislopp scanned in an EXCELLENT run of all news reports and WT comments re: the Catholic Church's scandal over the past 10-15 years. We all should copy that list of remarks and attach it to our letters to WTS AND TO THE MEDIA so they can see what the WT has been saying all these years about the CC while covering up their own filthy sandbox. Mac's thread is here:
    http://www.jehovahs-witness.com/forum/thread.asp?id=33077&site=3

    If anyone else does a letter and wants to share it, and starts a new thread for it, would you please put a link to your new thread in this one. It wouldn't hurt to at least keep one main thread going, with off-shoots to the others.

    Also, here's a few media emails:

    < [email protected]>

    Tom Brokaw < [email protected]>

    [email protected]

    [email protected]

    [email protected] -- or -- < [email protected]>

    Newsweek Magazine: [email protected]

    Time Magazine: [email protected]

    Associated Press: [email protected]

    Last night I zapped a note to Dateline and this is their "generic reply" FYI:

    [QUOTE[From: +NBC News Dateline Viewer Mail < [email protected]>
    Date: Fri, 26 Jul 2002 23:11:05 -0400
    Subject: RE: JWs Disfellowship Silent Lambs Leader

    Thank you for your E-mail to Dateline NBC. We are very pleased with the enormous response we are getting. Although we cannot write a personal note to each of you, we do appreciate your comments. You should know that we do sometimes quote your E-mail in our "feedback" section. If your correspondence is in reference to a specific segment, that letter will be forwarded to the segment producer for review.

    <b>If you have a specific story suggestion please send it to: STORY SUGGESTIONS, Dateline NBC, 30 Rockefeller Plaza, New York, NY 10112</b>

    Also, here are the answers to some frequently asked questions:
    How do I order a transcript? TRANSCRIPTS: Transcripts for NBC News Programs are available for purchase through the Burrell Transcript Service by calling 1-800-777-TEXT.

    How do I order a video? VIDEO TAPES: Only selected segments of our news magazines are available on VHS cassette. For information call: 1-800-420-2626.

    Again, thanks for watching ... and staying in touch.[/QUOTE]

    OK, kids, that's all I can think of right now.

    Grits

  • abbagail
    abbagail

    LuckyLucy has a thread going: Bill deserves more from us!!!
    < http://www.jehovahs-witness.com/forum/thread.asp?id=33150&site=3>;

    RubyTuesday has a thread going: Media Links (for NBC and MSNBC): < http://www.jehovahs-witness.com/forum/thread.asp?id=33135&site=3>;

    mikepence also has a thread going:Help to publicize the plight of Bowen
    < http://www.jehovahs-witness.com/forum/thread.asp?id=33154&site=3>;

    OrangeFatCat has a thread going: Letters of Outrage to Governing Body: http://www.jehovahs-witness.com/forum/post.asp?id=437471&method=reply&site=3

    YoursChelbie has a thread: Watchtower in NY By Law has to turn in Pedo-Files
    < http://www.jehovahs-witness.com/forum/thread.asp?id=33059&site=3>;

  • orangefatcat
    orangefatcat

    You are all so helpful, I am thrilled by the responses. Mary your outline is wonderful.

    Beans my wonderful nephew: where on earth have you been (no pun intended,)?I I have worried about you haven't heard from you in ages. Are you alright. E-mail me sweetie.

    Now with all the urls and new addresses we can bombard the world.

    Mary dear, don't forget to post the individual names of the Governing Body and addresses. Thanks.

    Now I have to go and bye some ink for my printer ran out.

    And yes flyers for malls laundrymats and car windows are a great idea. Thanks everyone.

  • Beans
    Beans

    Auntie Terry:

    I will e-mail you in two weeks!!!

    Love ya

    Beans

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