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You are correct all these things can be explained with other scientific "possibilities", however what can not be explained by science is how it works, at least at the present, let alone teach anyone about it scientifically.
In my karate class we would do a sensitivity training excersise, that absolutely showed me that we can not explain it with body launguage or speech inflections. It really comes down to intent, and the way we can percieve it is not explainable with present science. Four people in katrate Gi's (white uniforms) standing motionless around a fifth person in the middle with a blindfold on. The person in the middle can without fail 100 percent of the time idendify which one of the four has the intent of attacking him, without anyone even moving. Many explain it differently, as a feeling of pressure, or electricity, or heat, but the one thing they all manage to feel is the intent to do harm. Most students find this ability very surprising at first. Karate people are usually pretty good about not sending any physical messages about what they are about to do, much of the training is learning to recognise these movements that would signal your opponent as to what you are thinking. However when one learns to feel the intent of another towards them it impacts thier lives and most take the ability outside the dojo into thier lives.
I think someday when we have instrument that can measure these forces, that we can so easily feel if we just attempt to with an opened mind, they may enter the realm of science. How do you write a formula for something like intent, or love, or hate? It is a false sense of security to think we can understand this stuff with our present scientific quantifiable models. For now we can only rely on the people who have worked with these forces, those are the meditators and spiritualists who work with them. You can try it for yourself and see what works for you, or you can ignor it. From karate truths to Reiki healing arts to touch for health, to prayer, sending love to others has provided many with a much richer existence. Why are all these things consider as demonism to JW's?
Like I said before though, the JW's have mutated prayer into a control issue where you must first seek forgiveness of guilt, then limiting Spirit to a one sided battle of them against the world. I would expect most XJW's, like I was, would get a very sour feeling when even talking about it let alone become adventerous enough to try it again expecting a positave expierence from it. I'm just have to tell others here that it is something that can be positive if used with a more opened and self loving approach. If you still have all those guilt feelings, then the prayers won't work at all because you will never allow them to manifest because you will never believe that you are worthy. On the soul level we are all equals and we are all worthy and that is the starting point for Spirituality and that is what the JW's seek to hide from us instilling fear and guilt so they may keep us questioning ourselves and trusting only in them. That is Spiritual abuse.
Wow maybe I am a "Patriot"....LOL
Edited by - libra_spirit on 28 July 2002 19:40:57