by kat7302 25 Replies latest jw friends
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Sorry!
as ongoing JW I must say, we dont follow this, it only means that we have too bee more carefull, so the hard elders inn the cong, dont understand .
I must say you can not putt inn ruels who peopel not can follow, perhaps it is not so many in the GB who have children,so they have no idea, how this turn out.
Sorry to say, if you been ther done that, like have one child dfd, fore a time, you no how it works,
And you also now how to do.
I think the lost son story inn the bilbel also tell some how to do.
We was all waiting on softer ruels on this, as we have inn the 70 centuri, when you could talk but not abaout spirutal things, insted we have this mess, wrong shott GB.
Or you shott yourself inn the foot.
Will the J-dubs end up like the Catholics Hierarchy defining the indefinable and everyone in the Church disobeying the " Pharisees " rules and doing their own thing ? Im not so sure.
My mom phoned, feeling quite vindicated by the latest Km, and began reading it to me. When she got to the picnic part I cut her off.
You see my sister was ostracized by the family 20 years ago. I began realising my brain was on "pause" some time ago and got in touch with her. Lately dad got sick and after I showed them the WT media comments the parents permitted a visit by her. Even though 2 uncles, 1 a retired C.O/D.O, another a HLC member, each welcomed her with a big hug and had a meal at the same table, my parents seemed uneasy. They finally made a fuss and to explain it dad said, "shes still disfellowshipped you know". This seems to be the last stab wound my sister could take. She feels much worse than before and I feel pretty awful for trying to patch things up. Twice disowned by your own parents.
I told mom this Km was another example of the societys two-faced lying attitude, telling the pagan press one thing and their sheep another. I explained that the society is just preparing the way to clamp a vice-grip on anyones throat who has a word to say about the pedophile issue. Then I asked her who she thought was making these decisions and writing all this WT stuff. The governing body are all suffering from the onset of Alzheimers, soiling their underwear and being wheeled around Bethel. Theyve resigned from all the comities. So it would seem that the other sheep have now taken over. I asked her if she thought that was the way Jesus planned it for his faithful and discreet slave.
She finally agreed that the seeming turnabout seemed odd and said she would write the society for an explanation. I can hardly wait for the spin-doctors reply.
hopefully not everyone will feel the need to comply altho the way that the Gb have worded this is very clever...if you dont heed then you are not loyal...god forbid! My dad did answer my email and I will post his reposnse!
Thanks again for your support
Powerful Weapon?
Heres a quotation for you from Insight on the Scriptures Volume 1 page 787 under the subject Expelling:
The Watchtower characterizes the form of shunning practiced by JWs as a death-dealing blow. The Watchtower of 2/1 1960 page 80:
Of WTS shunning of immediate family members, The Watchtower of 11/15 1952 page 703:
Of WTS shunning of immediate family members living outside the home, the Kingdom Ministry of 8/2002 on page 4 repeats language from The Watchtower of 4/15 1988 by saying:
So, whos using the Pharisaic very powerful weapon today, the kind that could keep people from confessing Jesus out of FEAR?
Edited by - Marvin Shilmer on 31 July 2002 18:8:40
Hi Kat, All,
Golden Girl, You wrote: So I get the feeling I am being "Used"...
When my Jehovah's Witness relatives made the decision to start shunning me, they did it on a fractional basis and they did not inform me of their decision.
They had family dinners and did not invite me. They just quit inviting me to anything social and they mostly quit initiating contact with me. Relatives died and I was not told in time to attend the funeral. The only time they would initiate the contact with me was if they wanted something like borrowing my tools or to ask me how to do a building project.
My guess is your relatives will continue to accept your free labor under the shunning order exclusion clause, "family matters" and "business dealings".
In my experience, "family matters" and "business dealings" have all translated into money or favors which can be reduced to money. It's okay for them to associate with me if there is a buck involved but it's not okay to associate with me on a human level. I say: "Screw em!".
gb
I think that this particularly un-savoury KM will be read out tomorrow in the UK KH's.
As my JW Mum is due to visit next week, I am interested to see whether or not she will cancel on the strength of it. Somehow I doubt it. 1975, then Jesus not her mediator, then no 1914 generation, then paedophiles in the congregations on TV - set that against just good plain love between Mother & Sons and I think that the WTBTS are just about asking too much.
Maybe they've finally blown it this time!
Englishman.
Englishman wrote:
1975, then Jesus not her mediator, then no 1914 generation, then paedophiles in the congregations on TV - set that against just good plain love between Mother & Sons and I think that the WTBTS are just about asking too much.
It was not asking too much for both my parents. Maybe I am just not that loveable . . .
gb
Garybuss.........that was sad. Luckily my parents never got to that point. Im sorry yours did. Their loss though doncha think?
No Kat, My loss.
gb
