Do you have faith

by Crystal 10 Replies latest watchtower bible

  • Crystal
    Crystal

    Creation of God a matter of faith

    JIM DAIL
    For The Californian

    Christian-based religions all share at least one core belief: God is the creator and he sent his only son to Earth to die on the cross for the sins of man. But picture a small child attending his or her first Sunday School class. What if that child asks, "Who made God?"

    Certainly, the Bible leaves no doubt in who created Earth, heaven, man and Jesus Christ. The problem lies in that the Bible does not explicitly tell Christian followers that anyone or anything created God, only what God made.

    "There was nothing until he created it," said the Rev. Mike Rogers, an assistant pastor at the non-denominational New Covenant Fellowship in Temecula. "We must believe he is and those who do will be rewarded."

    Indeed, The Bible calls on followers to have faith in God's existence.

    "No one made God; he just was," said the Rev. Larry Koger, pastor of Hope Lutheran Church in Temecula. "We have to have faith in him."

    Leaders from local Jewish, Mormon, Presbyterian or Jehovah's Witness congregations did not return calls.

    The need to have that faith is pointed out in the New Testament's Book of John. John 1:1 instructs that "In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. The same was in the beginning with God."

    In discussing a person's need to rely on faith, the first teaching must be that God is supernatural and has always existed.

    "I would tell a person curious about who made God that since they believe in the word, they must believe that God is eternal," said Monsignor Tom Wallace of St. Martha's Catholic Parish in Murrieta.

    That point is a common thread among local clergy.

    "We hold that God is all reigning and has always been there," said the Rev. Blake Withers, senior pastor of the Las Brisas Bible Fellowship, a Southern Baptist church in Murrieta. "We teach that God is all powerful, sovereign and all-existent."

    But what of a person who questions that which he cannot see?

    "There's always someone who will say 'Now wait a minute. There's always a start to something,'" Rogers said. "We just have to rely back on the Scripture that he's an eternal being. Man's lifespan is small, but God is an eternal being ---- never started and never ends."

    Indeed, all theories of Earth and man's creation rely on a super force of some kind pre-existing. Even the Big Bang theory requires the presence of an explosive, creative force that existed before the planets and all that is part of them.

    One old argument is that even scientific forces sometimes cannot be seen. People do not actually see gravity, only the result of it. We have, in a sense, faith that gravity is behind an apple falling to the ground.

    That point is addressed again in the Bible. Hebrew 11:1 reads "Now faith is the substance of things hoped for, the evidence of things not seen."

    In other words, some things do not have an obvious visual answer.

    "We can't always explain everything to our satisfaction," Wallace said. "We, as Catholics, simply believe that God is eternal ---- no beginning and now end."

    As a result, clergy ask their congregations to have strong, unyielding belief in their faith.

    "We must trust God's love in the way God speaks to us through family," Koger said. "There are things we can't see or understand, but they do exist."

    6/14/02

  • hooberus
    hooberus

    Yes, Chrystal I have faith. I believe that God is from everlasting (Psalm 90:2; Psalm 93:2 KJV:ASV) and that Christ is from everlasting (Proverbs 8:23; Micah 5:2 KJV;ASV). Do you have faith in this?

  • SYN
    SYN

    That gravity analogy is absolutely bunk.

    The effects of God are NOT reproducable in a laboratory, unlike the effects of gravity.

    *ptooey*

  • Crystal
    Crystal

    I have faith now....lost it for so long.
    Too many mirales are happening in my life...
  • Crystal
    Crystal

    Miracles

  • Bleep
    Bleep

    The Bible says, "Just as gale-force winds test the seaworthiness of a vessel, storms of opposition will reveal any weaknesses in our faith.

    Those Apostates should get back some faith they lost long ago.

  • Crazy151drinker
    Crazy151drinker

    Bleep, your an Apostate for being here. Why dont you go get some hellfire and stick it up your ass! Stop hijacking Crystals post.

    Crystal: I liked your post, but I will have to say that the gravity point was a little off!

  • Bleep
    Bleep

    There was nothing wrong with my post.

    I have shown a good phrase from the Bible. Is this not a Bible topic?

    There is nothing wrong with me posting info about the Bible.

    Some people need some ethics much less Bible knowledge and wisdom.

    Allways a bad apple in the bunch yep yep.

  • Bleep
    Bleep

    Crystal wrote, "People do not actually see gravity, only the result of it. We have, in a sense, faith that gravity is behind an apple falling to the ground."

    That is how gravity was found. The apple hitting the head. DUH!

    CrazyDrinka only hits his head when he drinks too much, don't mind him.

  • jgnat
    jgnat

    Bleep, I am sure some of my views would label me an Apostate by the WTS. But I have never been disassociated or disfellowshipped by the WTS. My faith in Jehovah is intact. This is an absolute truth.

    Are you trying to strengthen your faith by tangling with the posters here? I suggest you learn more about your Jehovah first, and what His will is for your life. Read the Bible through, just like the Bethelites do.

    Edited by - jgnat on 9 August 2002 14:10:47

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