What if WT will claim, that Jehovah has pulled a "Jonah and Nineveh" on them?

by prologos 18 Replies latest watchtower beliefs

  • prologos
    prologos

    WT seems to be helpless in really dealing with the failed prophecies, pending dates, overlapping groups--.

    What if they declare victory, blame Jehovah, in that he allowed the nations to come to their senses and not further escalate the use of weaponry, "destroying [life on] the earth"? in a second fulfillment of

    the "repentant Ninevites, disappointed Jonah" bible Story? (their recent vow not to use further types and antitypes notwithstanding)

    A fishy story for sure. 

  • Honesty
    Honesty

    It will not work.


    Jehovah's Witnesses would leave by the thousands if the Watchtower told them that.


    Now, if the Watchtower keeps telling them that the reason the end is so close is because of all the earthquakes, tsunamis and other natural disasters that have occurred in the last year and the SONY hacking scandal, the commercial jets going down every week, the unrest between blacks and the police in the U.S. the wildfires in Australia, etc. the Jehovah's Witnesses will be all a twitter because they want to believe God is going to kill every nonJW on earth so they can have their material possessions.

    How many times out in Field Service did you see sisters (and some brothers) point out a fine house and say that they wanted to move into it after Armageddon?

    Jehovah's Witnesses anticipate God murdering 99.9% of the earth's inhabitants so they can live on paradise earth without having to see Christmas decorations, parades, football games, birthday parties and anything else that gives people pleasure.

    Jehovah's Witnesses thrive on bad shit and if the Watchtower tells them that God says the nations have repented they are going to be madder than hell at their god.



  • MissFit
    MissFit

    Prolog: I think they will just use the same reasoning they always have.

     It is a slight variation of the Repentant Ninivites:

    "Jehovaha has is own time table and as long as there  are honest-hearted ones, he will delay, ( then they quote that one scripture about God not wanting to destroy but wants everyone to attain repentance).

    And if we are being impatient because it hasn't happened yet,we are unloving and being selfish (like Jonah) because who knows how many more will discover Jehovahs loving kindness and be saved from the destruction. "

    So they aren't saying it won't happen, just that Jehovah isn't quite ready yet.  


  • Vidiot
    Vidiot

    Honesty - "It will not work. Jehovah's Witnesses would leave by the thousands if the Watchtower told them that."

    Bingo.

    Every authoritarian regime is terrified of a mass exodus. The WTS has experienced it twice, and is loathe to risk it again (third time's the charm, after all).

    They'd rather slowly tighten the policy screws and thusly control the outward trickle at a rate that they can adjust to - i.e. "manage the decline" in order to enable the WTS to survive - than risk the chaos that would inevitably result in a policy change that radical.

  • DesirousOfChange
    DesirousOfChange

    The example of Jonah & Nineveh is the only Biblical example one can use to remotely explain the "delay" of Armageddon.  Otherwise, it was all simply a "false prophecy".

    In either case, the WTS/GB would have to admit they were wrong, and that isn't going to happen.

    Doc

  • Honesty
    Honesty
    The example of Jonah & Nineveh is the only Biblical example one can use to remotely explain the "delay" of Armageddon.  Otherwise, it was all simply a "false prophecy".
    In either case, the WTS/GB would have to admit they were wrong, and that isn't going to happen.
    Doc


    Great points.


    They have never admitted they were wrong so why start now.


  • prologos
    prologos
    Of course they somehow could make it relevant by using the 3 and a half day of the prophet in the fish, as the period between 1914 and 1919 of their cleansing (by the stomach acid) we suppose. 
  • kaik
    kaik
    Also it is crucial to mention that Nineveh was destroyed, so WT will claim that the destruction was only postponed. Russell said: "Jonah walked into the city of Nineveh and said, "Yet forty days and Nineveh shall be overthrown." The prophecy was fulfilled in forty literal years."  And rest of the chapter in the Studies of the scripture deals with God being merciful and slow to unleash his punishment. WT can add 40 years to any of its overlapping generation and still based their nonsense from 1914.
  • prologos
    prologos

    kalk good point I did not think of the ruins of Nineveh.  

    Vidiot: "--authoritarian regimes are terrified of a mass exodus--" remember, the Berlin Wall was breached through a mis-communication. and

    There was a mis-communication between Jonah and Jehovah at one point or two to.

  • DATA-DOG
    DATA-DOG

    They will make up whatever they have to make up. Don't be surprised when "shelved ideas" are released from the collective brain trust of the GB right AFTER Warwick is complete. 

    They won't rock the boat too much right now, IMO. The WT articles that equate blind obedience to loyalty to God will continue. The counsel to ignore "satanic propaganda" will continue. They will manage the decline as has been mentioned. 

    They will get away with whatever the R&F allow. As long as the R&F worship the GB and the ORG, the cycle will continue. Dubs want to believe in a fantasy. 


    DD

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