by refiners fire 74 Replies latest jw friends
Hey, I thought this thread was about Prisca!
Anyway,
YOU GO GIRL!!
I must admit, we have exchanged words in the past. I believe that we are equally stubborn and very much alike. I admire your perseverance, strength, and wit and your ability to keep things interesting. Keep up the good work!
Yep, its a beautiful thing aint it? Like I said Pris..... Happy 4000th!!
Aint it great to see all your friends in here wishing you well??
I know you enjoy it immensely. Glad I could make your day.
Gee, thanks COMF! I appreciate cha!! I never woulda thought to do a search for "threads started by..."
As to reading any of her words, though, I think I'll pass. In scanning some of the titles I *did* notice that she got a very low average of views and replies. "Even by you?" I'm thinking. Not that *that* means much, but there it is.
Where she excels, at least in MY view, is in the comments she makes in threads she doesn't originate, as Kis has mentioned. In venom and vitriol, she's the queen of the Foul, imo -- without equal among people I've met anywhere, in any forum, online or off. Personally, I believe the woman has some serious unresolved emotional issues.
The very first time she EVER addressed me here on JW.com was in the matter of my daughter and the type of father I was. Since I didn't think it a fine thing to think of my daughter as an asshole or call her one, your friend laid into to me, and none too kindly. It was a hateful attack out of the blue. Then came the emails, which I still have. They reached a low I didn't think possible. And from a complete stranger, no less.
(And now. See what thread she chooses to make her comments? And what type of comments they are... the "contribution" she makes to the forum? Standard proceedure.)
No, you go right ahead and praise her, my friend. My opinion, while quite different from yours, is well founded.
Kismet:
Interesting that you chose to post threads started by and not all posts made by.
What's "interesting" about it, Kismet? Care to impute some motive? What, you think I'm trying to color things a certain way to make them look different than they are? Come on, man, don't be afraid to say it.
It would be the latter in which people could see the foul gutterlike language and personal attacks of which she excels.
Well, post the link, then. It's easily accessible just like the one I posted. The difference is, if you want to see what she writes in other people's threads, you have to go digging possibly five or six pages looking for her post. With the one I posted, she's the first one. We are, after all, talking about HER stuff. This seems pretty obvious to me, but you go ahead and find shadowy motives if you like.
let's not make a saint out of an abrasive and abusive poster
"Make a saint..." Kismet, would you go back and read my posts about her again? Tell you what, here, I'll quote them:
"Simon, NO!"
"Simon, YES!"Where do you get "make a saint" out of that? Are you seeing something I'm not?
that she has shown herself to be over the past several years.
Shall we have a look at Prisca's past record now, too?
And MD's participation of late has been nothing more than an attack and run. Such a fine addition to this board now...
I guess you're seeing something I'm not. As for what she said in this thread, it looked like an iteration of facts to me. Which of the things she said was incorrect?
Teejay:
In scanning some of the titles I *did* notice that she got a very low average of views and replies. "Even by you?"
If you have a point to make, Teejay, just make it, don't hint at it. You talking about the links to music that she provided? I listened to them. What need was there for a reply? I emailed her and Papa Dark back and forth about music. They opened up their FTP site for me so I could get the "Hocus Pocus" mp3 by Focus that I posted on this board around that time.
I'm thinking. Not that *that* means muchI agree.
Personally, I believe the woman has some serious unresolved emotional issues.
I'm sure you're right about that. Do you know her life story? If I had experienced what she has, I'd have unresolved emotional issues, too.
Then came the emails
I can't address that situation. I do know that Mommy Dark and I butted heads like a couple of bull elk on H2O years ago. We have both mellowed since then, and are now friendly toward each other. Had you seen what transpired back then, you'd be surprised that we could even speak to each other now.
(And now. See what thread she chooses to make her comments? And what type of comments they are... the "contribution" she makes to the forum? Standard proceedure.)
Yes, it looks surprisingly similar to Prisca's finest, doesn't it.
No, you go right ahead and praise her, my friend. My opinion, while quite different from yours, is well founded.
Would you mind pointing out this "praise" you and Kismet seem to be seeing? I'm unaware of it.
PLUM - I love you girl! Thank you for remembering what this thread was for. If I had the money, I would pay for your ticket over here - I think you and I would get along very well. Mmmwahh - s and (((hugs))) to ya!
Heaven - I still haven't sent you that email I promised you last weekend, have I? Sorry, but I have been thinking of you. I think we are alike, and I like that.
Outlaw - you always make me grin. I think if we sat down with a couple of cold ones we would have a great time. If you're ever in the land Down Under, let me know, you got a friend here waiting for ya.
Waiting - it seems soooo long ago that we didn't see eye to eye, but now I think you are one gutsy lady, and one person I very much admire. I keep meaning to write to you also, so please accept my apologies - I think about you also.
In scanning some of the titles I *did* notice that she got a very low average of views and replies. "Even by you?"
If you have a point to make, Teejay, just make it, don't hint at it.
COMF,
Okay, I'll spell it out for you.
It's like I said -- just looking at the first page of her threads shows that most of them didn't receive more than ten responses. One wouldn't expect many responses to a thread that links to music, but what about the other ones? Five of the threads got ZERO responses, even the public apology to Mommy. One would think that THAT one would get at least ONE response. Counting all twenty threads, she got (on average) less than 5 responses per thread. Throwing out the top three, and the average drops considerably. Wonder why. Not!
Do you know her life story?If I had experienced what she has, I'd have unresolved emotional issues, too.Come on, COMF. We *all* have those kinds of issues. Some have come thru living nightmares. I've read their stories here and wonder, not only how they made it thru, but how they can be so thoughtful and considerate with every word they type. (Waiting comes to mind, here.)
Crappy behavior and venomous words directed toward total strangers can't be excused by pointing at one's past. It's a sorry excuse. It's typical for abusers to become abusive -- nothing uncommon about that. The truly rare ones are those that rise above their horrible past and thru a force of personal will stop the cycle of pain and abuse. Darkmommie consistently shows that she is one of the former. In short, I don't give a damn about her life story. Knowing it would do nothing to diminish the ugly things she says here.
I do know that Mommy Dark and I butted heads like a couple of bull elk on H2O years ago.We have both mellowed since then, and are now friendly toward each other.Had you seen what transpired back then, you'd be surprised that we could even speak to each other now.Oh, I have no problem believing that! Not for one second.
No. Prisca can be... uh... bitchy (?) sometimes but it takes a rare individual that can be cruelly abrasive as md is. Even on her worst days, Prisca doesn't even come CLOSE. No comparison at all.(And now. See what thread she chooses to make her comments? And what type of comments they are... the "contribution" she makes to the forum? Standard proceedure.)
Yes, it looks surprisingly similar to Prisca's finest, doesn't it.
Would you mind pointing out this "praise" you and Kismet seem to be seeing?I'm unaware of it.
Sorry. Bad choice of words. All I was saying is that you happen to see good in the woman in the form of quality contributions to threads. I haven't. All I've *ever* seen is scathing abuse of people in the most despicable of terms.
Teejay,
Counting all twenty threads, she got (on average) less than 5 responses per thread. Throwing out the top three, and the average drops considerably. Wonder why. Not!
I fail to see a point here. You appear to be implying that MD should be able to control other people and force them to respond to her posts. I dunno, I don't get it. What exactly is your point, Teejay? How does this reflect badly on MD?
Come on, COMF. We *all* have those kinds of issues.
I simply responded to your statement, "I believe the woman has some serious unresolved emotional issues." If your stance is "Come on, COMF, everybody does", then why did YOU bring it up about her? What's YOUR point?
Crappy behavior and venomous words directed toward total strangers can't be excused by pointing at one's past.
I guess I need you to show me where anybody said that here. You said she had issues. I said that I would too, in her shoes. Where are you getting all this other stuff about excusing behavior?
it takes a rare individual that can be cruelly abrasive as md is.
No, it doesn't. MD is mild compared to many people I've had to deal with in my life.
you happen to see good in the woman in the form of quality contributions to threads. I haven't. All I've *ever* seen is scathing abuse of people in the most despicable of terms.
I reckon you're seeing what you want to see. Not many people responded to her posts; must be crappy posts. Don't bother reading them Teejay. If you do, you might find something worthwhile, and then you'd have to (shudder) change your position!
Never happen.
I haven't been around here long enough to develop long-standing love/hate relationships with anyone, but Prisca does seem like a quality poster to me. Hell, I admire anyone who can withstand the stormy waters of JWD for long enough to make 4000 posts! WOW! Like all of us, we all say things we regret later on, it's perfectly human, and if one apologizes, then it's cool.
Keep up the good work Prisca...summer's coming in the Southern Hemisphere at last, whoooO!
Edited by - SYN on 13 August 2002 19:21:25
MD is mild compared to many people I've had to deal with in my life.
While perhaps true, what I find odd is that unprovoked attacks on this board and any other db have something peculiarly in common.
The level of vitriol (some) people achieve in the glory of their internet anonymity is miniscule when compared to the person they are in real life. Very few people are as bold in real life as they are on the internet. (Exception:ME )
If you've dealt with people "worse" than her in real life, COMF, IMHO you've had an advantage. Looking someone in the face and reading body language brings another whole set of emotional nuances that reading words in black font could never achieve.
It seems that *MOST* of us on this board recognize Prisca as just another person...has her good days and bad....just like the rest of us. I can remember a thread not too long ago, COMF, where you thought you'd go toe to toe with me over the way I dealt with an individual in a congregation I used to attend. You took the whole thread off topic, telling me why I was at fault in the handling of how I dealt with my daughter.
I don't *THINK* so.
I got about 6 emails from YOUR friends who couldn't figure out why you were being such an asshole. They all swore you're a great guy in real life, and said you must have had a bug in your ass. They apologised for YOU, COMF. I've never brought it up before now, but I'm watching a few of you sit back and act like your shit doesn't stink and I'm here to tell you, IT DOES.
I don't personally build alliances with people I've never met on the internet. I pretty much like everyone, with rare excpetions.
Some of you need to GET A CLUE (right SYN? ) This isn't kindergarten, you don't have to choose up teams for crafts and fingerpainting.
Lisa
Lisa,
you thought you'd go toe to toe with me over the way I dealt with an individual in a congregation I used to attend. You took the whole thread off topic, telling me why I was at fault in the handling of how I dealt with my daughter. I don't *THINK* so.
I didn't try to go "toe to toe" with you. You can't acknowledge a point that disagrees with you when it's made. There's no use keeping on with somebody like that. I just present the facts. If people respond to my post, I respond to theirs. If they don't, I don't. I know you've got that major ego thing going on, and you've got to paint it your way. Can't do anything about that, either, so I just bow out. Bluster on, wonder woman.
I got about 6 emails from YOUR friends who couldn't figure out why you were being such an asshole. They all swore you're a great guy in real life, and said you must have had a bug in your ass. They apologised for YOU, COMF.
I can't know who you're referring to, and don't care to. If they apologized for my position on the matter, then they apologized incorrectly, because you were in the wrong. If they apologized for my manner of handling it, then there's probably some room for it; interpretation of presentation is subjective.
I've never brought it up before now, but I'm watching a few of you sit back and act like your shit doesn't stink and I'm here to tell you, IT DOES.
Fortunately, we have you here to point that out to us, and to counteract it with your own, which doesn't.
Edited by - COMF on 13 August 2002 20:7:9
