They way I recall the time of the exodus of people from H2O to JWD is this. (===)(===) It was not possible to have a enjoyable discussion on matters involving God and the Bible because of the greatly varying bodies of believers and unbelievers. There was peaceful coexistence when speaking on JWs issues not involving God (===) Typical conversations were like this. The believer would say he is discussing ways to salvation. The unbeliever would say salvation from what? There is no God. He exists no more than the Easter bunny. (===) The ensuing discussions which happen on almost every occasion where God or the Bible is discussed degrades into insults, etc. It became obvious that no ones thinkng could be changed because belief and unbelief is a personal choice made by the individual for his own emotional needs. (===) The unbelievers were anxious at finding a place they could more freely express themselves. They found such a place here at JWD. It was a blessing in disguise now to have specialized sites for unbelievers and unbelievers. I myself for conversation common to all ex-JWs go to JWD as it is more active. But for discussions of God and the Bible that is not intended to be a debate about Gods existence I go to H2O.... I find it a blessing to have both. (===)(===) Zechariah (===)(===)