Bill Bowens Highjacked thread

by CC Ryder 47 Replies latest jw friends

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  nancee park

  Again, all who disagree are not trolls. Some prefer to work on their own. Others as a friendly group (.org = organization).

  Working in organized fashion is okay. It's how you work and toward what ends you work that matters. Let those who want to work individually in line with the idea of helping the kids against molestors do so, and those of us who prefer to work more closely with silentlambs also do so.

  Voices are whispering to break up, splinter over this point. You and I know who those voices are.

  Listen, Ted Jarasc. It isn't going to work. We're still marching on your headquarters, whether as individuals or as a unit. Either way you are going to lose so that the kids don't have to be enduring rape anymore.
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  You Know

  Yeah, CC, why don't you talk to me and maybe you and Simon can set me straight and I will be a nice guy and get in line and shut up. Or maybe you could form a judicial committe to deal with the long-standing YK issue. LOL / You Know

  Edited by - You Know on 19 August 2002 9:41:43
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  plmkrzy

  Here is one option.

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  JanH

  Simon,

  All this talk of "democracy" and "rights" and allowing people to post whatever they want JanH ...

  We can certainly have a extensive discussion about freedom of speech and its limits whenever you feel like it. Are you up to it?

  Where have I even suggested that people should be allowed to post whatever they want? Please point to this message, Simon, as I do not recall such a thing. Or are you actually slandering me? If you can't point out such a thing, and you have indeed made a false accusation, I will appreciate your apology.

  As repeated ad naeseam over the last days: this is not a democracy, it is your dictature. Society as a whole will not be hurt if you decide that only the anti-JW voices could be heard on this forum. It will only damage the credibility of this site and the people who participate on it. Am I wrong in remembering that you yourself have invited participants to an open debate here about JW related topics, with both sides represented?

  The email I wrote to you had nothing to do with this, and you know it. We had an agreement, you had made rules explicit in the past, and I pointed out a specific message violating this rule. You obviously agreed, since you edited that message and some other messages in the same lane.

  - Jan

  Edited by - JanH on 19 August 2002 9:40:0
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  CC Ryder

  Hey JanH and nancee park, I totally agree about free speech. YK did comment on the thread's subject. He knew it would get people started up to speak to him rather than Bill. That's my point.

  CC

  Sorry Mary, I corrected my error.

  Edited by - CC Ryder on 19 August 2002 9:53:8
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  NeonMadman

  Free speech? Sure, as long as Jehovah's Witnesses are not allowed to state their opinions and fairly defend their faith.

  I don't think that anybody would have a problem with that, if that's what the JW's who post here were doing. Frankly, YK, you are the only JW I have seen post here who could reasonably make the claim that that is what he does, and that only part of the time. The vast majority of JW's who post here have absolutely nothing intelligent to say, and seem to thrive on causing trouble. People like Bleep, who never had an original thought in his life, but cut and pasted long excerpts from the Watchtower as his answer to everything, really contribute nothing to the forum, in my opinion. On top of that, the JW's who post here have a long history of deception and distortion (as does their parent organization). And surely, even you must admit that it appears that many of them post inflammatory statements for the sole purpose of getting people upset. You've been guilty of this last thing, too, with your self-righteous extra-biblical blanket condemnations of "apostates" (of whom, ironically, you yourself are one, at least according to WTBTS definition).

  But the thing I find that really sticks in people's guts (I know it does in mine) is when JW's show utter callousness and lack of sympathy toward the victims of child molestation, in the name of shoring up the organization's image. How can you blame people for getting upset when posters come here and condemn the victims, all so that their precious organization doesn't get exposed? That is evil of the worst sort.
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  Prisca

  Jan:

  Where have I even suggested that people should be allowed to post whatever they want?

  Here:

  It is the expression that you personally find the most detestable, that you disagree with the most strongly, that needs the protection of free speech.

  It's pretty much implied in that statement that anything should be protected from censorship.
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  SixofNine

  Take notice of what Plmkrzy has chosen to do in this thread. That is an option for anyone.

  It takes two (or more) to actually hijack a thread. Also, while it is commonly used for this situation, remember that the word "hijack" is a bit loaded, and this is really just a conversation between multiple participants, not a plane being flown to our sure destruction.
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  Edited by - plmkrzy on 19 August 2002 9:51:6
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  CC Ryder

  Hey YK, if you send me an e-mail I would gladly talk to you. I agree you have the right to comment on any thread. Do you not see the importance of what Bill Bowen and those who are volunteering are trying to do? I do not want you to leave us. I just would like you to think things out before you post on a thread such as Bill's. I'm sorry for not coming to you directly and giving the impression I was trying to get you booted off. I do read most of your posts, and on one occasion had insulted you, OK maybe a couple of times, I wish to apologize for that. Please accept my apology. Please consider your posts to Silentlambs more closly as to your intenet. Thanks YK.

  CC