cantleave10 minutes agoPunky - that ain't Jebuz in that there toast, it's Tony Blair!!!! ............He only thinks he's Jebuz.
Dang politicians...fooled again. So, Jesus probably doesn't exist apart from in the realms of money making and control?!?
Who was Jesus?
by Coded Logic 16 Replies latest watchtower bible
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punkofnice
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John Aquila
Who was Jesus?
Honestly, who has the answer? We’re talking about a person who lived some 2000 years ago. Stories abound about walking on water, raising 3 dead persons. Not 10 or 100, not 1000 but only 3. In the end he comes alive and flies into space. He says he is going to return quickly.
(Revelation 2:16) . . .I am coming to you quickly. . .
It has been 2000 years.
It’s time to move on.
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CalebInFloroda
The proper theological term for seeing Christ in one's toast bread is "Cheezus."
It comes from the Latin, "cheejse," which means to smile when one looks into a camera, and the Hebrew "jus," which was a type of Semitic sandwhich that consisted of two pieces of matzos in which select cheddar cheese was placed in between and the entire item toasted over medium heat until the image of the coming messiah or other celebrity appeared.
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cofty
I doubt if there even was a Jesus of history. -
cofty
If there was such a man, the Jesus of the gospels was not a good man.
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Xanthippe
We have the writings of the 'Christians' claiming this person actually lived to validate their beliefs and religious fervour. Obviously an academic historian would say there is bias and a vested interest before you start looking for provenance of those writings.
Then we have Tacitus who describes Nero blaming the Christians for burning Rome and Christus receiving the extreme penalty during the reign of Tiberius. That's it apart from Josephus talking about the existence of Christians. Tacitus wrote about sixty years after Jesus supposedly lived. He apparently had access to the Senate records but there is no proof of that. It's like someone trying to write an accurate account of WWII now. Very difficult. My parents were children during that war and they are dead. Who did he talk to about this Jesus? They didn't have the kind of records a historian could use now.
There has been a long tradition of creating a mythical hero for an actual time period and series of events. For example Aeneas, described in Homer and Virgil became the founder of Rome, the first true Roman after fleeing from the destruction of Troy.
Was he real, did he live? We have found the ruins of Troy and Rome remains today. Homer and Virgil wrote about him. The clues are all there. He was the the son of a Trojan prince and the goddess Venus/ Aphrodite. The context of his story; Cyclops and Sirens, gods and goddesses in Homer. In Virgil he is an ancestor of Romulus and Remus, babies raised by wolves.
Do the same with Jesus. Born of a god and a virgin. The Bible context of miracles, talking animals, giants and demons.
Who do I think Jesus was? Probably a conglomeration of Jewish messiahs. Preachers who had the messiah complex and wanted to save their people from the Roman occupation. Pieces of different stories mixed together and validated with real events, places and people just as all good legends are.
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Hold Me-Thrill Me
Jesus is God's Son.
He is beautiful as the sun and just as dangerous toward those who hypocritically claim to represent him.