Showme,
ReRead Freeman's post and you'll see it was TONGUE IN CHEEK!
by Yerusalyim 25 Replies latest watchtower medical
Showme,
ReRead Freeman's post and you'll see it was TONGUE IN CHEEK!
Was it? If I mis interpreted it then I'm sorry.
Butalbee said:
They are hypocrites.Ahh, plain, simple, and consise!.. And ohh soo true.. !!!
I was just thinking that when I served my JW sister her medium steak on Friday night and the juice, I mean blood was just dripping! And I thought to myself hey sis hows the blood?
Beans
Canadian Overbeer
I am an ex JW ... and ... I am a vegetarian ... besides the blood issue ... I feel it is cruel to the animals!! I wouldn't want to die the way they do.
Anyway .... I do support the argument of no blood transfusions. I have seen the differences it makes. Many live better lives with alternatives. To watch an 8 year old girl slowly die over 8 months with constant blood transfusions everyday because of a fatal disease is a very sad thing. She hated the needle in her arm and could do nothing but lie in a hospital bed ... but because the parents wanted her for longer ... I cannot honestly say that I wouldn't do the same ... I would just hate myself afterwards .... Last days of my life dying in a hospital slowly ... not memories I would want of my child.
I feel any church you go to is hypocritical ... and all people are ... it is human nature, isn't it? I went to get the good bits and pieces out of it and it was a form of protection for me for a while ... I don't believe in name calling ...
They have their reasons ... Let them figure it out ... and to me ... all parts of mosaic law are dead and what Jesus taught is what we are supposed to follow. Why exactly do you guys think that blood transfusions are safe and ok?
Welcome Kudos. BTW, dying a slow maintained death over 8 months (by any means, blood xfusion or whatever) is a terrible fate, and I too would want the 'plug' pulled on me. But the story would be completly different if I were laying in a pool of my blood from cut/shot/etc, and I could be saved by transfusion, to live a full life again.
Take the time to find out the 'truth' about blood x-fusions - it may save your life someday. As it is, they are not the be-all, end-all treatment for whatever, but they are one weapon in a doctors arsonal to help save your life. In certain cases I might opt for a no-blood treatment, but I wouldn't kill myself over it.
Hi Kudos:
I am very sorry about the little girl. You are right. Sometimes blood transfusions are pushed on the patient in the hospital as a last ditch effort to help those who probably have no chance of survival. My father, when he was in the hospital dying of lung cancer, had very little chance of a cure. In fact, weeks before he came home to die, they were pushing to give him a transfusion to help him fight a disease that he really had no hope of surviving. He was continuously being poked, prodded and stuck with any needle it seems they could find, when everyone knew that it was in vain. He ended up getting the transfusion, and died a couple of weeks later in my home.
It's not that everyone here thinks that blood transfusions are totally safe and without risk, no one said that. IT IS THE RIGHT TO CHOOSE FOR YOURSELF WHETHER YOU WANT THIS MEDICAL TREATMENT OR NOT.
Welcome to the board
Mrs. Shakita
all parts of mosaic law are dead and what Jesus taught is what we are supposed to follow. Why exactly do you guys think that blood transfusions are safe and ok?
I don't think that anybody said they were. Transfusions are a medical procedure that carries risks, as does any serious medical procedure. All that most of us here are saying is that people should be free to make their own medical choices without sanction or interference from a religious organization that has an extensive history of giving bad advice in health and medical matters.
It's true that there were Bible laws against eating blood. But Saul and his men were not condemned for eating unbled meat when their lives were on the line. There was also a law that carried the death penalty for working on the Sabbath. But Jesus acknowledged that, if even the life of an animal was at stake, it would be appropriate to do the hard work of pulling it out of a pit on the Sabbath. To do so might violate the letter of the Law, but would uphold its spirit. Life - even the life of an animal - was more important to God then ceremony.
Sociologists use the term Goal Displacement to describe a situation in which adherence to rules and regulations overshadows the larger goals of an organization, and creates a dysfunction. That, I believe, describes the Watchtower Society, as it also does the Pharisees of Jesus' time. Minor rules and regulations have overshadowed Christian love and simple concern for the well-being of others. It's an unfortunate situation.
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Some say that it is the intersticial fluids and not blood that runs out of meat. Any blood remaining in the body would congeal after a time and after exposure to air, and so would not be fluid after purchase from a butcher shop. However, a reputable book on physiology presents reasonable argument to the effect that some congealed blood is left behind even in well-drained carcasses. In an endeavor to remove all blood strict Jews go to great extremes. Code of Jewish Law,
a compilation of Jewish laws and customs by a rabbi and published by a Hebrew publishing company in New York city, details the great pains to be taken with meat. The meat is submerged in water for half an hour, is then salted and put in position for draining for an hour as the salt draws out the blood, and is thereafter thoroughly washed three times. However, Jehovahs witnesses do not pursue such extremes, which seem typical of the Pharisaical zeal that fussed over trivialities and "disregarded the weightier matters of the Law". As Jesus said to them, "Blind guides, who strain out the gnat but gulp down the camel!" (Matt. 23:23, 24, NW ) The point is this: Jehovah God gave the ordinance not to eat blood, when he said man could eat animal flesh. At that time he instructed that his requirement would be met by allowing the slaughtered animals carcass to bleed, to drain. It is his law we are seeking to comply with in this matter of blood, and after we have followed his requirement to bleed the animal, and thus met his demands, is that not sufficient? We need not become absurd and quibble like a Pharisee, piling on burdens beyond the requirements of divine law.Matt. 23:4.
We need not become absurd and quibble like a Pharisee, piling on burdens beyond the requirements of divine law.-Matt. 23:4.