What Really Surprises Me Is............

by Sentinel 11 Replies latest jw friends

  • Sentinel
    Sentinel

    .............that Jehovah's Witness aren't required to wear uniforms, adults and children.

    Especially now.

    I mean, it would certainly settle the issue of who's in and who's out, because whoever wasn't attending meetings couldn't pick up their next clean uniform. Also, they would be totally visible out in public and you would always be "safe", if you associated or spoke to one who was properly uniformed.

    And remember the prophesy: "Thou shall be known by thy outward appearance".

    What's in the heart doesn't seem to count for anything anymore. And, Love? What's that?

    Sentinel

  • ItsJustlittleoldme
    ItsJustlittleoldme

    LOL..

    Sadly, if the GB picks up on this thread, it probably will become an honest topic of discussion at the next meeting..

  • nancee park
    nancee park

    But so much else is required:

    DEAR JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES AND PUBLIC: There are many nice Jehovah's Witnesses (JWs) but did you know the Governing Body of the Watchtower Society (WTS) over them, and the WTS-appointed local WTS elders cover up child molestation and let JW pedophiles go door-to-door as proved at http://www.silentlambs.org or phone toll-free 1 877-WT-ABUSE.

    And this shows a UK elder handcuffed for prison because a pedophile: http://news.bbc.co.uk/hi/english/uk/england/newsid_2123000/2123546.stm

    WTS leaks state that over 23,000 JW pedophiles are on file at WTS Bethel
    headquarters in Brooklyn, New York (USA), most unrevealed to police despite
    Romans 13:1. That at least one pedophile was on the Governing Body of the WTS
    in the 1980s if not now also is documented:

    http://www.jehovahs-witness.com/forum/thread.asp?id=5466&site=3 Convicted

    Ministerial Servant/Elder pedophiles include Gregory Blackstone at Hollis, New
    Hampshire; Larry Baker at Augusta, Maine; Tim Gardner at Richmond, Missouri;
    Manual Beliz at Othello, WA; others in the UK, France, Norway, Australia etc

    WTS Awake and Watchtower magazines and elders say God opposes the UN but, until
    exposed, in 1991-2001 the WTS was secretly a formal U.N. associate not just to
    use the U.N.'s library as proved if you read the Nov 22, 1998 Awake magazine
    and use Search at the top at jehovahs-witness.org with "UN" or "U.N." Besides,
    the U.N. does not even require a group to become an official associate group in
    order to get a card to use its library! After this was publicized on the
    internet the official U.N. ties were cut but not all unofficial ties:
    http://www.jehovahs-witness.com/forum/thread.asp?id=34436&site=3

    Christ said families would be split by those doing right and those doing wrong
    but WTS has formal Judicial Committees destroying families via numerous formal
    renderings of disfellowshipment (severe shunning). 1 Cor 6:1 only says judge
    "trivial" things as in business, James 2:4-13 calls judging harmful, and Paul
    says the "majority" (2 Cor 2:6) followed his advice to shun a wrongdoer,
    meaning a Minority chose not to and yet he nowhere condemns them.

    Acts 15:20 says abstain from blood but 1 Sam 14:32-5 says Saul's army ate
    unBLED meat to not starve and no verses show God not forgiving them. Christ
    says God also forgave David's eating temple holy bread and that God wants Mercy
    Not Sacrifice. (Mt 12) The May 22, 1994 Awake tells of 26 JW kids who died
    without transfusions, and by common sense in massive bleeding as in car wrecks
    blood expanders won't save lives
    http://www.ajwrb.org. About 3 JWs die daily
    earthwide from the unscriptural policy! (Blood On The Altar by David Reed) Yet
    most normal identical twins transfuse whole blood to each other through a
    shared placenta and childrens' whole blood is sometimes found in mothers years
    after birth.

    WTS says Christ was likely born about Oct 2, so why ignore counting back 9
    months for normal conception or genetic-level birth means he was born in late
    December? Why insist Christmas is from the pagan Saturnalia when John 10:22-3
    says Christ also celebrated the Festival of Dedication or Lights, i.e.
    Hannukah, which first began Dec 25 but has varied since because lunar-based?
    Job 1:3, 3:1-3 show Job's kids celebrated birthdays if you read all 3 verses to
    see day of birth is meant. At Luke 2 angels themselves celebrated Christ's
    birth. Santa is from Saint Nicholas, an actual red-robed Christian gift-giving
    elder of the Middle Ages, not a wizard or pagan god. The word Easter may as
    easily be from the Anglo-Saxon word eastern (Christianity came from East of
    England) as from the goddess Eastre, the eggs as likely from the Jewish
    passover egg as from paganry, common sense saying early Christians more likely
    using eggs and rabbits to symbolize the hope for new life by resurrection than
    as vesiges of pagan fertility or sex rites!

    Halloween came from All Hallows (Holy Ones/Saints) Evening when parents had
    children dress as saints to encourage them to be good, the normally harmless
    pranks coming from Ireland where maybe or maybe not taken from pagans even as
    wedding rings, names of days, months, some Christian names in the Bible like
    Apollos and Jason also came from pagans. Why does the WTS call compromises
    holidays that attacked and replaced paganisms especially since Colossians 2:16
    says let none judge you about a holiday or Sabbaths? WTS calls a cross a
    repugnant murder weapon but Paul said boast in it as a symbol of resurrection
    over death. (Ga 6:14, 1Cor 1:17-18) They say it was a stake but human remains
    and inscriptions show archaeologists the stauros was a cross not stake, Dr F
    Zugibe's research shows suffocation would be in minutes if on a stake but in
    hours if on outstretched cross per Lu 23:44 and Mat 27:45-6, and the word
    stauros can mean not just stake but cross.

    Although almost only the United Pentecostals teach that Jesus is God Almighty
    (Jehovah) Himself, WTS says the Trinity is believing Father, Son, Spirit are
    one "identical" person and falsely say most all Protestant and Catholic
    churches teach that, even though the fact is that most all other Protestant and
    Catholic groups accept the trinity idea as being three totally different
    entities or persons forming one "Godship" (Ro 1:20), Son and Spirit sharing
    inherited age, power, knowledge from God just as an acorn may be only one day
    old but also have its genes inheriting its ancestral oak tree's age, capacity
    amd information!

    Members are told report on each other although the Bible condemns busy-bodying.
    Nor are regular JWs allowed to read Judicial Committee "sin files" on
    themselves, many not knowing they exist often with misinformation and kept at
    Brooklyn's Bethel headquarters even if destroyed locally after seven years.
    Page 232 in the Insight book shows a picture of the Pay Attention To Yourselves
    And All The Flock book that elders have but do not allow non-elders to read.
    Page 302 in the Daniel book and pages 88 and 651 in the Proclaimers book show
    photos of the Knights Templar swords and the cross-with-crown-and-wreath used
    by Masons who sometimes use "Theocratic Warfare" tactics to change members'
    personalities on early WTS literature. Not surprisingly with the pedophile and
    other scandals, many good JWs have also complained of visual and electronic
    spying and harassment, including physically! Some old WT books also have the
    winged sun god Ra on front covers - never a Christian symbol.

    Many Jehovah's Witnesses staying JWs are cutting time and money given the WTS
    which is declared "apostate" by silentlambs.org for endangering children, the
    secret U.N. liason etc. Many exJWs meet for fun (
    http://exjw.meetup.com/), get
    a newsletter from a fellowship united by love which is greater than forced same
    beliefs (Col 3:14,
    http://groups.yahoo.com/group/jahchristian/), join a church
    etc. This was written out of love for our JW families and friends as well as
    the public's - yours too! Please help out silentlambs.org (1 877-WT-ABUSE) in
    fighting for the children by making and distributing more copies today

  • RandomTask
    RandomTask

    uh yeah, read that in another thread...

    No, the uniform is a cheap suit and bookbag if you are a guy and an ugly, heel hugging, neck choking, puffy sleeve dress if you are a girl.

  • A Paduan
    A Paduan

    I thought they had uniforms, it's pretty easy to spot them in the street. Even when not at 'work', the haircuts and clothes choices often give them away - something undefineable, might be a certain way of mixing neatness or something.

    Maybe I'm just imagining things.

    paduan

    Edited by - a paduan on 4 September 2002 20:25:31

  • kenpodragon
    kenpodragon

    Uniform or not, I tend to be pretty good about picking out who they are ...

    If I see a teenage girl who seems way to shy and awkward for her own good ... JW

    If I meet a teenage boy who is acting like a horney 10 year old, but unable to express himself right ... JW

    If I see a woman who is scared to speak over her husband ... JW

    If I see a man wearing a suit that is out of style, yet thinking it makes him look distinguished ... JW

    ... you get the idea, they do have a uniform appearance.

    My thought

    Dragon

  • Beck_Melbourne
    Beck_Melbourne

    If they wore a uniform, then they would be as the pharisees were...I can't see them being so 'obvious' LOL...as we all know they are indeed pharisaic.

    I'm pretty good and picking them out from a crowd also...there's just something about them.

    Beck

  • onacruse
    onacruse

    hehe, this reminds me of the "fashion wars" of the late 60's- to mid-70's...are colored shirts ok to wear on the stage? Sports coats and pants? Casual shoes? Can a bro with a mustache be an MS? What about beards? Haircuts? How long should sideburns be? Are bowties acceptable?

    Oh, oh, and let's not forget...what kind of car should we drive? Music listen to? Movies see? Why not to go to bars? After-school sports? Chess? College? How to spend summer vacation? "Worldly" friends? Large parties?

    The Martians have landed! The Martians have landed!

  • minimus
    minimus

    Jehovah's Witnesses have the MARK of salvation. They don't need a uniform.

  • Big Tex
    Big Tex

    Hey Minimus, I'll let my basset hound mark them . . .

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