Implanted, Imprinted and still Operating.

by Englishman 15 Replies latest jw friends

  • Englishman
    Englishman

    I just wondered how much those "words of wisdom" that we once believed came from Jehovah, via the FDS, and out of of the mouth of a public speaker, are still affecting us today?

    I don't mean the scriptural imprinting, or even the stuff that bored us silly in the Sunday Watchtower study. No, I mean the special instruction, the special assembly talk, the special week of activity that went with the CO's visit. The stuff that was just a bit different so as to make an impression on an already over suffused brain, the stuff that seemed on the surface at least, to make sense, the stuff that might still be operating in our subconscious minds without us even realising it. The stuff that seemed to be wise, even.

    How about this liitle gem, straight from the CO's Saturday night Special:

    "Brothers, it is not fitting for a married brother or sister to have a special friend in the congregation, even though that friend is of the same sex. Married brothers and sisters already have a special friend, their marriage mate. Any other close friendships are not fitting"

    Or this one, straight from a CO Servants meeting, just before the Saturday night Special:

    "Are there any in the flock who are anxious or depressed brothers? Let us remember that whilst depression can have a medical basis, that anxiety is generally the result of serious wrongdoing".

    My favourite of all time is this one, courtesy of Fred Franz, speaking at an international assembly at Twickenham, London:

    ""Some days ago, a sister with several young children approached me, and said, "Brother Franz, must I take all of my children to all of the meetings all of the time? Brother Franz, I hate to see my children so tired and I am worried that I will bring reproach when my neighbours see me bringing them home so late, tired and weary. What shall I do?" You wanna know what I said to that sister, brothers? I asked her, what would you rather have, a tired child or a dead child?""

    My point is, that all of these outlandish statements were made by so-called brothers in good standing. They weren't ever written down, but nonetheless, the statements were repeated and regailed many times over, mainly to admonish someone under the banner of "Remember what Brother so-and-so said" at such-and-such a meeting.

    Damaging, or what?

    Englishman.

  • Vivamus
    Vivamus

    Ewww, bringing back some unpleasant memories about the Co's talk about how damaging and wrong the TV was. God, am I glad to be out.

  • Reborn2002
    Reborn2002

    I figure I might as well support their outlandish ideals.

    Since they believe that all exJW's are disgruntled and evil, the next Jehovah's Witness that dares speak to me on the street is going to get either karate chopped in the throat to cause an eerie silence in their presentation, or punched directly in the four front teeth with my intentions being to cause him thousands of dollars of dental work.

    Edited by - Reborn2002 on 5 September 2002 16:45:32

  • Dutchie
    Dutchie

    Englishman, I love that dancing pink pig!

  • Latte
    Latte

    E-man,

    WOW.......what utter garbage! And to think that we all sat there and took their words as Gods (as they wanted us to)

    I still haven't got over having to huddle in group, on a busy main road to have a prayer said prior to F.Service, I was about 12ish at the time.....................Aaaarrrgghhhh! lol

    Good post Mike

    Latte

  • LDH
    LDH

    LOL @ Reborn......

    Lisa

  • refiners fire
    refiners fire

    My favourite of all time is this one, courtesy of Fred Franz, speaking at an international assembly at Twickenham, London:

    Hey Eman. I Just wonder what YEAR that was. My folks got baptized at an Assembly in Twickenham. That was in '63. (curse the day)

  • jst2laws
    jst2laws

    Hello E-man,

    I used to make myself available for the brothers and sisters dealing with depression. I made a personal study of the problem (all WT and Awake material except for a few books I read on the side) and would even seek out those with symptoms of depression. A common feeling among depressed witnesses is low self esteem, never feeling good about themselves.

    At KM school a few years ago the instructor from Bethel told us exactly what was the cause of depression among the JW women. WATCHING TO MANY AFTERNOON SOAP OPERAS!

    He went on to say "we don't need a professional therapist. We have everything they need, the Bible."

    Now I respect God' word, but I know if I need surgery I need a surgeon. I wonder how many people were hurt by that gem?

    Jst2laws

  • Matty
    Matty

    Oh, gawd, don't remind me of Fred Franz. I remember meeting him when I was about 8, backstage at Twickenham, while my dad was involved in some item, and he ruffled my hair and said what a fine upstanding young man I was, I guess because I'd been quiet. All the big-wigs in the Jehovahs Witness religion feel that they can ruffle children's hair with impunity. Albert Schroeder did it to me too.

    edited for lousy spelling

    Edited by - matty on 5 September 2002 18:15:41

  • Stephanus
    Stephanus
    "Are there any in the flock who are anxious or depressed brothers? Let us remember that whilst depression can have a medical basis, that anxiety is generally the result of serious wrongdoing".

    Translated: Someone with only one confidante is easier to spy on

    "Are there any in the flock who are anxious or depressed brothers? Let us remember that whilst depression can have a medical basis, that anxiety is generally the result of serious wrongdoing".

    Translated: Depression is a sin

    You wanna know what I said to that sister, brothers? I asked her, what would you rather have, a tired child or a dead child?""
    Translated: God will kill you for not listening to Fred Franz

    Edited by - Stephanus on 5 September 2002 18:14:24

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