NEWS - VICKI BOER ABUSE CASE - Globe and Mail

by hawkaw 18 Replies latest watchtower child-abuse

  • Had Enough
    Had Enough

    Christian Observer:

    Sorry, but wasn't it Messrs. Gnam and Day (Mia's lawyers - and how did a minor afford to engage 2 lawyers???) who went on record just a few days ago saying that they were going to follow Mia's wishes and pursue a case relating to the rights of teenagers.....? So how does that sit with the interrogation and treatment of children and teenagers by the WTBTS in abuse cases.....? Not too well imo!

    I agree with Scully that you've made an excellent point. And one that I hope will strike the heart of many observers and those in positions of authority that can use this point.

    To hear Vicki recount how devastated this interrogation over and over again was, emphasized to all just how destructive the elders' actions were and have been for so many. Their total concern was not for her the victim, but for the accused, and how they were going to treat this..."as uncleanness, loose conduct or pornea...each being dealt with differently"....and of course the primary concern was for the congregation and the "name of the organization".

    The elders and the WTS are being shown as being totally incompetant in investigating and the eyes of the world and the JWs are on them.

    Hey (((Dana))): You pulled out many pertinent statements in this issue of untrained men in way over their heads when it comes to issues as abuse. You used the word "insensitive" and that struck me because I wrote down a similar word in my notes...."indifferent".

    Vicki generously stressed that "the elders weren't cruel, just unconcerned for her". I put "indifferent" in brackets beside that statement in my notes as to how it struck me.

    All this was just from the first day..the first of fourteen. I'm so enthused all this is coming out in the public for so many reasons: for the truth to be known by both JWs and non-JWs at last and for all the victims who have suffered in silence having been made to feel that it was their fault...that they brought it on themselves. I truly hope this will help start a healing for all.

    Had Enough

  • hawkaw
    hawkaw

    The Ottawa Citizen story is on Page A12

    It is a separate and small story not reported on their web site.

    The story is by Shannon Kari.

    hawk

  • abbagail
    abbagail

    Thanks Hawk and Scully for keeping us updated on Vicky's trial. FUMING over the PIGS is the what keeps surging up in my guts. She is one brave young lady and I hope her the BEST! I hope this trial helps her PURGE the cruelty and pain she has suffered for so long. Yet I hope even moreso THEY get "purged" of every penny they've got!

    Dia: "Undisfellowshipped" has been working hard to make emailing info to media easy for the rest of us. See his most current thread entitled "MEDIA" here for many media addresses: http://www.jehovahs-witness.com/forum/thread.aspx?id=36347&page=1&site=3#490871

    Thanks!
    Grits

  • honestly
    honestly

    Actually Mrs Boer is lying,her father reported it himself to the cas and the police but Vicky refused to press charges,she told me herself.

  • hillary_step
    hillary_step

    Honestly,

    I am by no means pre-judging this case, as I would like to hear the defendants defence but do you feel that Ms. Boer is wrong to bring this suit against the WTS and the elders concerned? If so what do you recommend that she does to attend to these alleged criminal acts that she obviously has not felt any emotional closure over?

    Ms. Boer, may indeed have made a decision many years ago not to pursue this case. Does that preclude her being justified in changing her mind about bringing the issue into the open and dealing with it.

    You noted that Ms. Boer 'refused' to press charges originally as if she made an unhindered decision swayed by no emotional constraints. Was this the case?

    Best regards - HS

    Edited by - hillary_step on 14 September 2002 0:52:42

  • DazedAndConfused
    DazedAndConfused

    honestly = Vicki's father?

  • ozziepost
    ozziepost

    Honestly,

    I am also most interested in reading your responses to the questions directed to you by H.S.

    Would you favour us with a response?

    Cheers, Ozzie

  • plmkrzy
    plmkrzy
    Actually Mrs Boer is lying,her father reported it himself to the cas and the police but Vicky refused to press charges,she told me herself.

    If thats true then there will be a record of it

  • JT
    JT

    I too would like to hear your thoughts on this issue Honesty as well-

    Is she wrong for coming forward at this time- have you ever heard of the 3 little black girls who were killed in a bombing back in the 1960's during the time of the KKK- it took some 30+yrs for thier case to be address-

    do you feel that such things a child abuse should be left alone and not addressed by the courts due to as the wt says a few years have passed by?

    looking foreward to your thoughts on how to deal with Older Crimes

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