Why isn't Jeehoober more like Jesus???

by DATA-DOG 14 Replies latest watchtower beliefs

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  DATA-DOG

  This just struck me as odd. If the Bible is really God's word, and it's all real, why doesn't Jeehoober act more like Jesus?

  Jesus perfectly imitated Jeehobo, right? He was loving, he healed people, he fed them. He did all these things, even though the "appointed time" was not at hand. He knew people like Lazarus were going to get old, get sick and die, yet he healed them anyway.

  Yet Jeehoober and Jesus, combined, can't feed the hungry, or stop disease? They can't even save their own people from disasters, or save them from rapists and murderers in the KH!?

  It's something to think about.

  DD
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  The_Doctor10

  It's what always confused me, OT Jehoobah is a vengeful, angry, jealous, spiteful, malevolent, dictator, then in the NT he has a kid and mellows out. Jebus preaches about how cool, kind, and loving his invisible sky-pops is, a complete turn-around from the O.G. version in the OT.

  Jebus hands all credit to his invisible sky dad, saying that he's imitating him, but this imitation is a complete 180 from the invisible dictator we all came to know and loathe from the OT account.

  It's almost as if Jebus was Jehoobs PR Department, "Look, Dad, you're really powerful, and I think you've shown that quite, uh, proficiently..." ... "I know right? So many people I've smited! Awesome right?!" ... "Yeah, so about that, people aren't so happy about the whole being smited thing, they think you're kind of sorta, just a little bit of a dic...a dictator, they think you're a dictator." ... "Ok, and the problem is what exactly?" ... "Look, just let me go down there, smooth over some things with your disgruntled employees, lets call it rebranding, get a whole new image for you, I can sell a kinder, gentler form of celestial judgement." ... "Hey, son, I got an idea, how about I send you down to earth to make me look better?" ... *smh* "Great idea Dad..."

  Jehoobs sends Jebus down to earth to become the sacrifice for us lowly humans, Jebus goes through with all of the suffering, torture, and finally death... and who do we give credit to? The grand poobah Jehoobah! Wait, what?! What'd he do? Basically nothing, he did nothing, he sent his Son, but Jebus did all of the heavy lifting as it were so yeah, kind of greedy there grand master Jehoobah! That ego from the OT popping right back up in the NT.

  Jebus tried selling a Jehoobs that turned over a new celetestial leaf, but in the end, Jehoob is the same old egomaniacal creator we always knew. Taking credit wherever he can and shirking responsibility wherever he feels like it.
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  sir82

  I give the Gnostics and the Marcionites credit for recognizing this dilemma and least attempting to produce a rational theology anyway.
  
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  LoveUniHateExams

  Why isn't Jeehoober more like Jesus? - I've wondered this, too.

  In the OT, Jehovah was a vengeful, violent lunatic with some serious character flaws and anger management problems. His so-called son, Jesus, was a chilled out kind of a dude big on love, forgiveness and common sense.

  I quite like Jesus; I'm not too keen on his dad.
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  Finkelstein

  Most likely because some ancient Hebrews wanted a more loving and persoalble god than Jehovah of armies,

  who was yes all powerful and omniscient.
  

  The Messiah was to bring something more tangibly better than the Great Creator god Yahweh.

  Recent findings into ancient beliefs systems from different civilization shows that the Messiah god from the Hebrew civilization, may have been plagiarized from other earlier belief systems from other ancient civilizations.
  

  When one reviews what Jesus Christ taught and what was to happen to those who strictly followed his guiding directions, its should be clear that JC was a spirituality deity that had greater concern for the human experience and condition, certainly more so previously than his father.
  
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  BluesBrother

  Actually, the WTS view of Jesus is just like Jehovah.

  This is from the book God's Kingdom Rules (2014)

  
  
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  CalebInFloroda

  As a Jew I wonder about this all the time because of Christianity's claim that Jesus is merely the Incarnation of G-d, or even as JWs believe that Jesus is at least the perfect example of G-d in the flesh. They don't seem to be on the same level in Hebrew culture. The so-called "vengeful, warrior G-d of the Hebrews" is actually an exegetical invention of the Christian heretic Marcion of Sinope that still lives in the doctrines of many current Christian sects today. Jews recognize that they often wrongly applied their own vicious efforts as recorded in the Tanakh to G-d when in reality G-d had nothing to do with many of those things, but Christians tend to interpret these same verses as literal acts of G-d.

  Because Marcion despised the Jews, he created a philosophy that Jesus was a more superior god to the one the Hebrews worshipped. Jesus, Marcion claimed, was thus the loving G-d the Jews and the world needed. In his efforts to prove this Marcion developed the first Bible canon, one that dismissed the entire collection of Jewish books and included only a heavily edited version of Luke and epistles of Paul he claimed supported Gnostic notions.

  You might also blame Christianity for the debate: "If G-d is all-powerful then why do the innocent suffer?" Jewish tradition doesn't ask this. In fact, as I just mentioned on another thread, Jews see that some denial of God's existence can be a good thing, even raising the atheist up as a good and beneficial facet of the world we live in unlike most theists do.

  A great Hasidic teacher once stated that if someone comes to you and asks for help that it would be wrong to send him off with a pious message to have faith in G-d, that G-d would take care of all his troubles. Jews find this useless. In fact the Jew is to act as if there is no G-d, to take care of the needy themselves as if we are the ones responsible to make sure they get through their time of trouble.

  People spend a lot of time debating the "why" of suffering, arguing over whether this means G-d exists or not. Jews feel this is time better spent finding practical ways to actually do something about suffering and leave the debate about G-d's existence to others. What good is proving that G-d exists by winning a debate on the subject if during the time you spent arguing you could have done something to help others?
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  Heaven

  The god concept evolves. The ancients believed god to be all things, both good and evil, however, this does not hold up to logic when making the claim that he is 'all loving'. So Jesus had to be invented to move to that ideal and also cover off the whole why do we die and why does evil/sin persist? Unfortunately, with the ransom being paid by Jesus' death, another logic fallacy was created.
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  John Aquila

  BluesBrother

  Actually, the WTS view of Jesus is just like Jehovah.

  This is from the book God's Kingdom Rules (2014)

  Why would Jesus need a horse? Didn't he get a pair of wings?
  
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  CalebInFloroda

  Why can't G-d have both good and evil qualities? Does he have to be all-loving? I mean some of the movies that came out recently are so dirivative and lack depth of feeling and poor art direction and acting....Does G-d have to love these too?

  And why does Jesus get a horse? How often do you hear of Jews riding around on horses? Jews don't like horses. We Jews like cars. Wouldn't it make more sense for the Messiah to ride in comfort in a new car? Or are there horses in heaven? That's probably why they say Jews won't be going to heaven. We Jews don't like horses.