I could go on and on on this one believe me, How bout the sister that would use her middle Knuckle to the top of her 4 year olds head, that worked he was probably seing stars for the next 5 minutes, no one ever stopped her this went on for years,it was bad in my hall ,it got so bad the niebors called the police and complained because they got tired of all the kids screaming and being beat outside of the hall,I witnessed pinchings that left bruises ,slaps that left swollen faces you name it, when I had my own son at a meeting at around 2 years old he was squirming around and making a little fuss, one of the attendants, his grandfather tapped me on the shoulder and told me to take my son out and disipline him, I knew what he ment ,I took my son out alright, to the car and home so he could play like a 2 year old is suppose to, they never bothered me again about it in fact some of the other parents took my example and quit beating there kids, I felt so much joy for saving some kids a beating. The one that really stands out in my mind thow is a brother that I grew up with got married and had a daughter, this was long before I had my son, anyway we were at a District Convention and I say him standing outside with his cute little daughter, she was about 2 ,He looked me sqaurley in the eyes and said you know the way they treat there kids around here is wrong, I said what do you mean, he said I cannot see any reason to beat a 2 to 3 year old child for not sitting still at an all day convention, he walked out to his car and that was the last time I ever saw him, literally...NP