amoroso
Welcome, sorry to hear about the loss of your dad.
Dismembered
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amoroso
Welcome, sorry to hear about the loss of your dad.
Dismembered
I'm sorry, too, Nick.
It seems that your life has been one of much heartache, as was your father's. May he rest in peace and may you find comfort here.
outnfree
So Sorry for your loss Nick, Welcome, there is a lot of nice people here, if you need to talk, please do.
Nick, I am so sorry for your loss of your father...and the pain he was going through...Welcome to the forum, you will find a lot of people here are good listeners when you need to talk...Sending thoughts of comfort and condolences your way...
{{{{{BIG HUGS}}}}} to you Nick, and if I could give them to your Dad, I would do that also. Your Dad's story seriously and sincerely caused a lump in my throat. It is nothing less than tragic. All of the emotions in your Dad's life many of us have felt and experienced, from our "pre-truth" drug days, to the thrill and joy of learning the truth, to life's harsh realities of jealousy and rejection, to giving up and giving in to our "demons" (weaknesses), to tragic accidents, abandonment, loneliness, feeling Jehovah does not love us... Your Dad was at the threshold of being where he so much wanted to "get back to," and for the congregation & elders to not take him under their wing, especially in view of his physical needs, is something I'm sure Jehovah will not forget. I do so much believe what you say is true, that a person formerly DF'd by a cong would probably not ever love that one the same as before, even if they got back "in." That's one reason I never tried to go back, but at least your Dad TRIED, I never even tried, so I admire him for that. You must know God knows your Dad was searching for Him again, and will bless him and hold him dear to His heart. I am SO SORRY, because I can empathize with the feelings of despair that causes one to edge toward suicide. (Your Dad's life story especially touched me for several reasons/some similarities to my own life: his year of birth, drugs prior to truth, much enthusiasm for the truth once I found it '77, embraced it '79, pursued it 11 years, then a falling away, a bad accident, health problems, relationship problems, despair, suicide attempts. Even if we bring some of these things on ourselves, where is the aid, the assistance, the love to help us endure?) One scripture that I repeated often and which, hopefully, your Dad did too, was that Jehovah does NOT forget the love we showed for His name (when we were doing good and being very very good). He does NOT forget that even when we "stumble many times."
Just remember, without a doubt the "Angels in Heaven WERE Rejoicing over the 'One Sinner' (your Dad) who had Repented," even if the congregation was a complete and total failure in showing the same joy and much needed love to your beloved Dad when he neeeded it the most. We all know it's true, that if one cannot or does not "fit into that JW-mold or style" and does not have that 'JW-look'," then they are not embraced. For having this attitude, Jesus will judge them harshly. Why should they love us only when we are "doing good"? It's the "sinners and the tax collectors" that need embracing.
Please take care, Nick, and as the others have said, please do stick around and WELCOME to the forum, though we are sorry it is under such heart-wrenching conditions you have joined us.
Sincerely,
Grits
{{{{{Nick}}}}} Welcome to the board and I am very sorry on the tragic loss of your father. Please let us know how you are.
Amoroso,
That is one of the saddest things I have heard all week.
Stick around, their are sadder, but not for you I am sure.
I am sure what I just said came off as callous.........believe me it wasn't intended as such
{{{{{{{{{{{{HUGE HUGS)))))))))))
We Hear you, sweet guy. That is so sad. You'll find comfort here and feel free to vent all you want. ok? JW's sometimes forget that the most important thing is LOVE. (((((((((NICK)))))))))) love, dj
I am so sorry to hear of the tragic lose of your father. On Sept. 15, 1985 my mother committed suicide , I was 18 and she was only 35 . It tore my world apart . She had been a faithful witness for years, although she had a prescription drug problem. She was in rehab, overdosed more times than I can remember, but she always made it thru. She was like a cat with nine lives, and she ran out, so to speak. I found it hard in the beginning to accept her death, I dreamed she was still here, I dreamed she was speaking to me. The years went by and I started my own family , faithfully served Jehovah, but was still depressed over losing my mom.
I didnt feel real peace , until this year, once I disassociated myself and left the borg for good. Then I opened my mind to seeing what her life was really like trying with all of her emotional problems to be the perfect elders wife. My dad ran off with a younger sister in our hall, she was only 8 yrs older than me and my mom and dad got disfellowshipped. She got the boot for smoking. How sad. Four months later, with no comfort, no help from any friends or the elders she chooses to end her life.
I have found great comfort coming in this forum and I hope you decided to keep coming here for the support you need. I never had an any support after mama died. I never had anyone just listen, no concern, just told me to go in service more. I am angry with myself for listening to them and the way the WT does not allow us to grieve. I tell you, you should grieve your father now, and do it the way you feel you need to.
I posted on Sept 14, 2002, a Remembrance of my mom , you can find it under members, and the name LyinEyes. It was just one way that I felt to honor her, and it make me happy for others to see her picture and know that she is not forgotten. The responses were more than she ever got even right after her death.
Sending you much sympathy, and hope you find peace , this is a good place to start,,,,,,,,, LyinEyes (Dede)
Nick, Tinkerbell and I have just read about the tragic lose of your Dad. It was very heartwrenching and has left us both very sad for you. You were a good son and our heart and prayers go out to you and your brother. Tink and I have found this place to be a lifesaver. A month after we married in 1996 her Dad took his life while her mother, who was battling cancer was with him in their living room. Her Dad was never a witness, but her mother was. Please feel free to e-mail us anytime you wish to. If all we can do is listen to you, it is our hope that it will help you cope in some way with the greif and pain of losing your Dad. Grits has posted a loving response to you. I too feel that your Dad is being cared for in a place where he has no longer any pain and suffering. His struggles in life and wishes to serve God the best way he knew how will not go unrewarded. You can live in his honor and in his behalf and remember his life by living your own the best way you can.Tinkerbell wished to respond to your story also, but is very sick at this time and has asked me to post in her behalf. Please stay with us here and keep posting. You will find many, many great friends here who have common ground with you and can help you.
(((((((((((((((((Nick)))))))))))))))))))
CC/Tinkerbell