What JWs are passing out in response to Silentlamb

by Joyzabel 55 Replies latest watchtower scandals

  • Joyzabel
    Joyzabel

    I was outraged when I read what a friend of ours was given him by 2 JWs yesterday when he asked them the question about the child molestation issue. I can't belive the JWs have the guts to pass this stuff out. The people we were with at lunch today all looked at it and was replused at the WT's reply.

    What do you think?


    Jehovah's Witnesses and Child Protection

    Child abuse is abhorrent to us. This is in harmony with the principle recorded at Romans 12:9. Even one abused child is one too many. For decades The Watchtower and Awake! have featured articles to educate both Witnesses and the public regarding the importance and the need to protect children from child abuse. Among others, there was the article "Let Us Abhor What Is Wicked!" published in the January 1, 1997, issue of The Watchtower ; "Help for the Victims of Incest" in the October 1, 1983, Watchtower,"Your Child Is in Danger!", "How Can We Protect Our Children?", and "Prevention in the Home", all in the October 8, 1993, Awake!, as well as "Child MolestingEvery Mother's Nightmare," in the January 22, 1985, Awake!

    When any one of Jehovah's Witnesses is accused of an act of child abuse, the local congregation elders are expected to investigate. Two elders meet separately with the accused and the accuser to see what each says on the matter. If the accused denies the charge, the two elders may arrange for him and the victim to restate their position in each other's presence, with elders also there. If during that meeting the accused still denies the charges and there are no others who can substantiate them, the elders cannot take action within the congregation at that time. Why not? As a Bible-based organization, we must adhere to what the Scriptures say, namely, "No single witness should rise up against a man respecting any error or any sin . . . At the mouth of two witnesses or at the mouth of three witnesses the matter should stand good." (Deuteronomy 19:15) Jesus reaffirmed this principle as recorded at Matthew 18:15-17. However, if two persons are witnesses to separate incidents of the same kind of wrongdoing, their testimony may be deemed sufficient to take action.

    However, even if the elders cannot take congregational action, they are expected to report the allegation to the branch office of Jehovah's Witnesses in their country, if local privacy laws permit. In addition to making a report to the branch office, the elders may be required by law to report even uncorroborated or unsubstantiated allegations to the authorities. If so, we expect the elders to comply. Additionally, the victim may wish to report the matter to the authorities, and it is his or her absolute right to do so.

    If, when confronted, the accused confesses that he is guilty of child abuse, the elders take appropriate congregational action. If he is not repentant, he will not be permitted to remain a member of the congregation. Even if he is repentantis cut to the heart and is thus resolutely determined to avoid such conduct in the futurewhat was stated in the January 1, 1997, issue of The Watchtower applies. The article said: "For the protection of our children, a man known to have been a child molester does not qualify for a responsible position in the congregation. Moreover, he cannot be a pioneer [full-time missionary of Jehovah's Witnesses] or serve in any other special, full-time service." He would not qualify Scripturally. (1 Timothy 3:2, 7-10) We take such action because we are concerned with maintaining Bible standards and protecting our children. Everyone in our organization is expected to meet the same requirements, namely, to be clean physically, mentally, morally, and spiritually.2 Corinthians 7:1; Ephesians 4:17-19; 1 Thessalonians 2:4.

    In a few instances, individuals guilty of an act of child abuse have been appointed to positions within the congregation if their conduct has been otherwise exemplary for decades. All the factors are considered carefully. Suppose, for example, that a long time ago a 16-year-old boy had sexual relations with a consenting 15-year-old girl. Depending upon the U.S. jurisdiction where he lived when this happened, elders may have been required to report this as an incident of child abuse. Let us say that 20 years have passed. The child abuse reporting law may have changed; the man may have even married the girl! Both have been living exemplary lives and they are respected. In such a rare case, the man could possibly be appointed to a responsible position within the congregation.

    Our procedures have been refined over time. Over the years, as we have noted areas where our policies could be strengthened, we have followed through. We are continuing to refine them. We do not believe that our system is perfect. No human organization is perfect. But we do believe that we have a strong, Bible-based policy on child abuse. Anyone in a responsible position who is guilty of child abuse would be removed from his responsibilities without hesitation. We certainly would not knowingly allow him to serve elsewhere, either because he moved or through a transfer.

    The Bible teaches that individuals can repent of their sins and "turn to God by doing works that befit repentance," and we accept what the Bible says. (Acts 26:20) Still, the safety of our children is of the utmost importance. We take it very seriously.


    I would love to go through that letter with a highlighter just to point out what is unbelievable, but I'll let you guys respond first. Then I'll get my big highlighter out.

    j2bf

  • Joyzabel
    Joyzabel

    opps, forgot to post this is where I got it from: http://www.jw-media.org/releases/bg_molestation.htm

    But the jws had printed a copy for my friend to read. They had several xeroxed copies in their bookbags.

  • Ephanyminitas
    Ephanyminitas

    How sickening! Is this an official reply from the organization, or did a well-spoken Witness cobble it together?

  • Celia
    Celia

    Hi Joy !

    they give one exemple of a 16 year old boy having sex with a consenting 15 y.o. girl....

    They don't talk about 4 and 6 y. o. being molested by an elder friend, or even the father himself, a JW in good standing...

  • mommy1
    mommy1

    It makes me angry. I wonder if my own father is passing this crap out, knowing his own child was molested.

  • Joyzabel
    Joyzabel

    Yes Ephanyminitas, this is the official reply on the watchtower.org internet site. So all can check it out and see it.

    Yes Celia, isn't that awful the example they use is not about molestation but two consenting teenagers!!!

    mommy, that's too bad, but that is the official WT's statement.

    We had an article in our paper about a week ago about the silentlamb's march and the issues involved and this is what the jws are doing in response. <shaking head> they are so mind controlled that they pass this stuff out!

  • Tinkerbell4125
    Tinkerbell4125

    Alright, I'm gonna go throw up now.

  • Eric
    Eric

    Ephanyminitas,

    Oh yes, that's the official poop all right. http://www.jw-media.org/releases/bg_molestation.htm

    They think this is a great policy. They don't get it at all, do they?

    Eric

  • expatbrit
    expatbrit
    If the accused denies the charge, the two elders may arrange for him and the victim to restate their position in each other's presence, with elders also there.

    Per Matthew 18. This is exactly what Watchtower officials have been denying in the Vicki Boer case!

    If during that meeting the accused still denies the charges and there are no others who can substantiate them, the elders cannot take action within the congregation at that time.

    In other words, all the other kids in the congregation will be left at risk.

    However, even if the elders cannot take congregational action, they are expected to report the allegation to the branch office of Jehovah's Witnesses in their country, if local privacy laws permit. In addition to making a report to the branch office, the elders may be required by law to report even uncorroborated or unsubstantiated allegations to the authorities. If so, we expect the elders to comply.

    Note the priorities: branch office first, then secular authorities. Also, note that the emphasis is still on reporting only if required by law. And they expect the elders to comply. However, if the branch office has been notified, what of their duty to report, both legally and ethically?

    If he is not repentant, he will not be permitted to remain a member of the congregation.

    Cf the 1988 letter stating that molestors are notrious re-offenders. Sure, a few extra hours in field service checking out householder's kids will really demonstrate repentance!

    "For the protection of our children, a man known to have been a child molester does not qualify for a responsible position in the congregation. Moreover, he cannot be a pioneer [full-time missionary of Jehovah's Witnesses] or serve in any other special, full-time service."

    Contradicted further down. Also, this is misleading because a paedophile is still sent in field service, and can spend as many hours as a "pioneer". This is an effort to distract from the very real risk to the general public caused by WT policy.

    In a few instances, individuals guilty of an act of child abuse have been appointed to positions within the congregation if their conduct has been otherwise exemplary for decades.

    Contradicts the above.

    Suppose, for example, that a long time ago a 16-year-old boy had sexual relations with a consenting 15-year-old girl.

    Strawman. Attempts to distract the argument from the real issues of adults molesting children.

    No human organization is perfect.

    I thought they were God's Organisation.

    In summary, the fact that this pathetic piece of crap is currently up on the WT's website demonstrates that nothing has changed. The WT is still hoping to bluff it out and hopes the issue will go away. The Governing Body would rather children continue to be raped and silenced, than that their image be tarnished.

    Expatbrit

  • Joyzabel
    Joyzabel

    Hey expatbrit, looks like you've got the same yellow highlighter as me!!!!

    Good comments!

    Eric, you are so right, they don't get it.

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