BLACKMAIL question

by lisaBObeesa 14 Replies latest jw friends

  • lisaBObeesa
    lisaBObeesa

    I have been having thoughts. (I know, I was shocked, too, heheheheheheh) Please give me some input, because this keeps going around in my crazy little head

    You want to leave the JWs, but you are told you are free to leave, but you will be announced as DA and you will loose all contact with your family, because they will believe you have done something very very bad.

    Isnt this blackmail?

    Just like pay me $50,000 or I will tell the world you did something really really bad.

    Isnt that a crime?

    please explain!

  • RunningMan
    RunningMan

    Yep,that's blackmail. Unfortunately, our society has become oversensitive to the right to freedom of religion, thereby allowing religions to act like criminals.

  • lisaBObeesa
    lisaBObeesa

    Thanks, Runningman,

    OK, if this is true, couldn't this be the basis of lawsuits?

  • RunningMan
    RunningMan

    No. It's been tried many times. The society hides behind their status as a religion and squeals "persecution" every time it is tried.

    Apparently, only they get to have freedom of religion.

    Suing a religion for anything that falls within the domain of spirituality is virtually impossible.

  • Shutterbug
    Shutterbug

    Yes it's blackmail, but your post does bring up an interesting question: how many are still active because they are being blackmailed?? This is also a good argument to use in conversations with the faithful.

  • ThiChi
    ThiChi

    Can you just fade away without a DA on you?

  • Swan
    Swan

    Technically it isn't blackmail, it's extortion.

    Tammy

  • lisaBObeesa
    lisaBObeesa

    Swan: Thank you.

    I looked it up on the web and found that extortion is when:

    A person obtained property from the alleged victim; the property was obtained with consent of the alleged victim; the alleged victim's consent was induced by the wrongful use of force or fear; and the person who used the force or fear did so with the specific intent to induce the alleged victim to consent to the giving up of their property.

    Now I am soo confused....maybe the legal meaning of extortion and blackmail is only met when money is obtained by force or fear??Maybe staying a JW because of force or fear doesn't count..

    ?? Anyway, I am still confused about what the difference between the blackmail and extortion is. They sound the same to me?? Are they the same?

    RunningMan: So I guess it would need to be proven the blackmail/extortion was NOT in the domain of spirituality in order for a suit to work? maybe?

    Shutterbug: It think lots of people are still active because of the blackmail/extortion.

    ThiChi: I'm not in this situation, I am just thinking about it because so many ARE in this situation.

    Still thinking!

    LisaBObeesa

  • WildHorses
    WildHorses

    Lisa, what the WT uses is blakmail, but, it's emotional blackmail.

  • Siddhashunyata
    Siddhashunyata

    Under the First Amendment freedom of religion is interpreted to mean that the individual has the right to CHOOSE his religion. Therefore it is assumed that every Witness chose their religion and the courts refuse to get involved unless the WT itself breaks the law or is a threat to the public at large. That'ts why the law suits against the WTBTS are very specific about the laws that may have been broken regarding reporting abuse to the police etc. The courts need to focus on the modern day methods of coercion and psychology that are now used by high control groups such as are being used by the WTBTS . Because of these methods the freedom of choice is being subverted. One way for the courts to act is to require full disclosure of the policies and expectations of the WTBT. This might take the form of a requirement that they disclose ,at the door, the polices that are currently being challenged as unlawful. Another way is to require that it be made known at the outset that if a person becomes a member of the Jehovah's Witnesses he will forfeit certain civil and human rights that he now has under the First Amendment such as Freedom of Speech . This would alert the public and act as a cautionary factor in the assumed freedom of choice.

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