Wanting to speak to someone (page 3)

Joyzabel

Smokey,

that's what we are all trying to figure out.

My hubby dropped hints to me about the way people are treated in the borg and it slowly opened my eyes, then I couldn't read enough about it and it being a cult.

But to get people to get their eyes open is what we are trying to figure out. Some have their eyes super-glued together. Look at the response to the media exposure of Silentlambs and still the average jw thinks its lies. The wtbts has done a wonderful job of keeping the "sheep" in line. Just like the Nazi's did with Germany. Ever read the book, "The True Believer" by Eric Hoffer. It explains mass movements and you can really see the jws in it, even though they are not mentioned.

Hope you enjoy yourself among this wonderful group. Let us know what helps you to open someone's eyes.

j2bf

Smokey

Spanner,

I have tried as well, I guess you were unsuccessful, but I always tell them things that I hope will help them use their thinking capabilities. Were you raised as a JW?

Smokey

Joy2bfree,

Hey, I was married at a very early age and well, he grew up as a Catholic and at one time I think he truly would have became a JW, but he came to his senses and I guess you could say that my wonderful husband help to open my eyes as well as a lot of prayer and patience. I feel like my relationship with my parents and other family members is almost like experiencing a death of the former person. It was really sad and still is, but at first I truly mourned the loss of my family and the beliefs that I am sure we all truly thought was right.

DJ

Hi again Smokey:

Your situation is very similar to my own! I feel grateful to have a relationship w/ my family too. It can be very uneasy, I know. I'd rather have that instead of total shunning, though. I have a similar 'deal' with my family but there are a few who like to start trouble now and then. When it comes to my children, I have a major line that they better not ever cross. My husband and I are now Christians too. It has helped me to be able to be around them without fear. I agree with the bordering on demonic statement that you made. It is a topic here now and then that causes some controversy. I guess that the connections with spiritism is what concerns me the most. John 1:1 translation and Rutherford's teachings of spirits giving him 'new light' and Russell's pyramid stuff, the connection to masons, etc. It is all very significant in their teachings as you know, but most jw's don't even know about it or they refuse to believe it. We have a lot in common it seems. Welcome again and thanks for responding to the questions. Love, Dj

Joyzabel

You are right, Smokey. When we leave an organization like the WTBTS with all the beliefs we once had it is like a death. Grief has to take place. The stages of grieving is: denial, anger, bargaining, depression and acceptance. We all have to work through those emotions when we leave. If we get stuck in one emotion too long, then we should seek professional help.

Of course it is no fun having to deal with the jws but if your family are still jws then you are still dealing with them. Just don't get bogged back down in the grieving process. Someone once explained to me how they felt and when they deal with their jw family, they view it as being in a foriegn land speaking a foriegn language. Just be sure you leave all customs of that land behind

BTW, Smokey, I haven't written my story yet because of the circumstances of me and my family leaving. But there are plenty of good stories to read of others who have left and what they have gone through. I'm sure you can relate.

j2bf

Smokey

Well, I have been totally ignorant to JWS new teachings and I know their is a lot of controversy concerning the molestation of children who were former members. I am not really sure what really started this, can someone enlighten me on the latest with all this? And also, what is this movie that JWS are showing at conventions and all? Anyone know what I am talking about?

Joyzabel

I don't know if this will help you, but at the bottom of this board are some references to other web sites. One is silentlambs, dealing with the molestation policies and victims.

Also, if you go to the little folder and hit all topics, then you can pick "personal experiences" and read other's experiences.

Also, search is a wonderful feature that you can look up by topics or word what others have said on this board already.

Enjoy!

Smokey

I know what you mean by the grief process. I think I have come to terms with the whole thing. I just meant that I see other people with their families and sometimes I just feel left out of jealous that my family really no longer wants anything really to do with me or my children or husband. They blame my husband for my getting out of it, instead of seeing that it was my own personal choice. My children do not have a relationship with their grandparents and I do not have a bond with my family that are JWS and that is really what I meant. I focus all my love and attention on my children and husband and my spiritual family at church. I just miss what never will was and maybe never will be.

Joyzabel

I understand Smokey.

A lot of us here miss what should have been, could have been with our families. We come here to complain about it and others understand.

But, I know there has to be other religions that do the same thing with their families if they don't "believe". Look a the Taliban, now could you leave that religion without losing your family???

Enjoy your immediate family and "spiritual" family. Enjoy your life the best you can, that's all you can do to prove the jws are a cult. Let it be the jws that are the "odd" ones out.

j2bf

Smokey

Hey, just wanted to see if anyone is still out there?

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