JW Molesters In The News

by silentlambs 22 Replies latest watchtower child-abuse

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  SwordOfJah

  I hope the FBI does some real serious investigation of the WT they are a dangereous religion!

  I'm confussed here. The guy is disfellowshipped for, I'm guessing fromt he article, somesort of illegal activity. So the congregation acted and kept the brothers & sisters protected. Then this Ex-Witness goes nuts and murders his family and now somehow it's the fault of the Watchtower?

  I understand most of you oppose the Watchtower, but don't be so foolish as to use anything JW related to attack the religions and the beliefs.

  JW Molesters In The News

  That is the title of this thread, does anyone know why it was titled that way. This is a news story of an Ex-Witness that is disfellowshipped. Did I miss something?

  TheOldHippie

  I enjoy your posts very much. Although we might not see things in the same way most of the time, at least I admire that you are logical and find balance in your viewpoints. Your post above is just one example. Thanks.
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  RevMalk

  Well, I don't know how the Watchtower can be blamed for any of this. There's not a religion on the planet that doesn't instill some sort of fear. I mean a Catholic would fear Hell (along with most religions). Although if he were Catholic he could have run down to the Church to confess, do his hail Mary's and Our Fathers and then blow his head off thinking he was ok with God. I personally prefer him to be alive and in custody.......If he has any sanity at all he'll be dealing with some real crap now. He can Pray to Jehovah right up till he gets the needle, and then we can all take a sigh of relief. This is a real tragedy, without a doubt, but not because he was a JW, but because he is a nutbag that we'll soon be rid of.

  Edited by - Revmalk on 4 October 2002 13:6:5
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  waiting

  Hello Sword,

  If you do a search with the words "Longo murders" - it will bring up at least a dozen threads with the long background into this pitiful situation. Just click on any of them.

  With pertinent information written soon after the murders, it's much easier to understand why some would fault the WTBTS right along with the man. It doesn't make the man innocent.........but it gives some reasons to his actions, and how the WTBTS fueled the situation.

  Longo might be mentally ill as Ol Hippie *suggests* - but he doesn't know that fact. Longo might be in a long depression, he might just be evil. But no one knows for sure......and it helps to know the background of the case before giving personal opinions.

  Happy reading.

  waiting
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  waiting

  Hey Rev,

  At least my computer screen won't read those soft yellow words. Edit?
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  RevMalk

  Is that better? I always have to be messing with things, that's my problem, haha
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  gumby

  Old Hippie...but your way of reasoning here would lead to all religious systems being banned.

  Do you have some proof that these orthodox churches currently do the things the W.T. does? Name some.

  If there are others that do similar things......then they should ban them. Murder is murder
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  Farkel

  Old Hippie has raised a good point. The question that needs to be asked and debated is, "Are a significant number of JW suicides directly due to the relgion, or not?" Then, "Are a significant number of other suicides from other Christian religions due to their respective religion, or not?"

  Here are some ideas for starters:

  Does the JW religion impose more guilt and more pressure that results in suicides compared with other religions? Do other religions do the same thing, which results in suicide?

  Does the JW religion cause mental illness resulting in suicide, or does it tend to draw into its ranks people prone to mental illness? Do other religions do the same?

  Do Jehovah's Witnesses have a proportionately higher, lower or equal number of people who are mentally balanced than other religions?

  Farkel
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  RevMalk

  	Waiting, That's an excellent point, but it's also not good to run around accusing a certain sect (cult) of things that may or may not have attributed. I was a JW for years and I never killed my kids. Of course I never molested them either. I'm thinking that I may have missed something along the line, and I will do some reading on the case. I'm almost afraid to look. I don't know anything about this, but was he brought before the Elders on the molestation issue? Was he punished? Was he reported to the Authorities? The answers to these questions is what I fear. Obviously these are retorical, as I'm going to look into it before I state any further opinion. I do agree with your statement, but it does go both ways. I worry that pointing fingers in the wrong direction may hurt the cause rather than help. If we all look like a group of idiots, it only helps their case. On the other hand, if the finger needs pointing in that direction than we all need to do what we can. As I've said before, this is the first time I've seen a legitimate cause against the Watchtower......cause enough to act on anyway. I can't help but feel from day to day that there's more that I could be doing, and I'm sure there are plenty of us that feel the same way. The ball is rolling, it's time to kick it through the goal. We can't waiver and we can't fail, and the only way to accomplish our goal is to keep level heads.
  	silentlambs.org
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  gumby

  Good points Farkmeister!

  Does the JW religion cause mental illness resulting in suicide, or does it tend to draw into its ranks people prone to mental illness?

  I would say anyone familiar with the dubs would say they do both.

  I was a dub for 42 years counting my baby years. Upon exiting I attended the Baptist church a few years and some others. Never was the guilt instilled in me for not measuring up to church standards the way the dubs do to the publishers who do not measure up.

  No marking, your not inactive/irregular, a bad example, weak, ....all of the titles the dubs give out to those not measuring up. No disassociated, or DFed either. Unless a person is a real beligerant asshole. Most aren't.

  If you are visited by an elder from another church because of lack of attendance....you are not questioned in the manner the dubs do....especially if it relates to doubts you may have. No threats.

  Anyone who compares most churches to the dubs is wrong. There may be similarities....but they don't come close to the damage instilled by the witnesses.
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  UnDisfellowshipped

  SwordOfJah said:
  

  I'm confussed here. The guy is disfellowshipped for, I'm guessing fromt he article, somesort of illegal activity. So the congregation acted and kept the brothers & sisters protected. Then this Ex-Witness goes nuts and murders his family and now somehow it's the fault of the Watchtower?

  Has anyone noticed that, if he was Disfellowshipped for illegal activity, the JW's did not turn him in to the Authorities, did they?