How do jw's explain vestigial organs in humans?

by purrpurr 12 Replies latest jw friends

  • purrpurr
    purrpurr
    I only recently became aware of cases of people being born with tails. Having looked into it this is a evolutionary leftover and we have many other examples within each one of us like the appendix, wisdom teeth, and muscles to move the ears. Plus many more, this seems to me to prove evolution completely. Have the WT addressed this? And how did they explain it?
  • John Aquila
    John Aquila

    Have the WT addressed this? And how did they explain it?

    Sin

  • berrygerry
    berrygerry

    Satan messing with DNA.

    (It's going to suck in the 'new system' when women change into men [unless you're gay, but I'm not sure how that will work out either] ).

  • DarioKehl
    DarioKehl

    Best answer: they don't address these at all.

    The default response goes like this: "God must've had some reason for putting them there, but certainly mankind cannot offer the explanation. For, 'it does not belong to man, even to direct his step.' It's questions like these that will be answered in the New Scrolls--we'll learn so many marvelous things about God's creation that we can't possibly understand while we're imperfect. But be careful asking such questions in this Time of The End. The True answer to this doesn't have any impact on making it through Armeggedon, so for now, it would be wise to stand firm in the face of doubt and stay focused on the more important spiritual things. For the way to God's Kingdom is cramped and narrow. Those 'scientists' are on the broad and spacious path and they are pulling many of our brothers and sisters away with their feeble fleshly teachings. Avoid independant thinking!"

    How'd I do? Feel like barfing yet? My teeth feel gritty from just writing that.

  • StrongHaiku
    StrongHaiku

    I remember my mother and a number of people around me postulating that these were "side-effects" of imperfection (Adamic sin). Ah, the stuff you swallow when you are scientific illiterate.

    DarioKehl - How'd I do? Feel like barfing yet? My teeth feel gritty from just writing that.

    I threw up in my mouth a little. Mission accomplished. Nicely done.

  • DarioKehl
    DarioKehl

    One advantage to keeping them uneducated is that they'll likely never know or understand terms like "vestigial traits."

    They have the Creation book with the same long-debunked apologetics used by all other creationist religions. Their best device is the elipsis (...) when quoting any secular authority or scientist. They omit the parts that conflict with what they're promoting and dishonestly quote professionals in order to make it appear they're saying the exact opposite of their original statement. They use these devices to create straw men arguments, making the believer feel that their refutations are necessary and sound when neither condition is the case.

    ALL JWs should be exposed to these terms and encouraged to google them:

    endosymbiotic theory

    RNA world and clay substrates

    shared pseudogenes & retroposons

    GLO gene knock-out mutation/vitamin C deficiency btwn humans, chimps & bonobos

    human/chimp chromosomal fusion

    tiktaalik

    Vitellogenin (egg yolk protein) gene in humans

  • berrygerry
    berrygerry

    This documentary might help:

    https://vine.co/v/hqvwZYQwU0g

  • Mephis
    Mephis

    I don't recall it being cited from a WT, but the explanation I was given was that the Bible forgot to mention god playing about with human internal organs around the time of the flood. Or words to that effect. Something to do with us needing to be changed from vegetarians to omnivores so body bits needed some rejigging to allow it. I once tried to get a reasonable answer on evolutionary hangovers (snakes' legs, I was curious about the whole punishment of being made to wiggle on their bellies thing) during the time the Creation book was the Tuesday night staple, but was effectively told not to worry my little head about it and to ask in the new system instead.

  • adjusted knowledge
    adjusted knowledge

    The appendix is such a weird "organ". I remember in my anatomy and physiology class the professor stated it may have a useful purpose. He stated that the appendix may store some beneficial bacteria and may inject it into the system when needed. Kind of like the liver makes the bile and the gall bladder stores it and injects as you digest fatty foods. Not sure if there has been studies done on it.

    I find Embryology to be so fascinating when look at from an evolutionary viewpoint.

  • Vidiot
    Vidiot

    Okay, Dario, that's just creepy.

    Were you in the Writing Department at some point?

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