Tell Me More About 1975

by Diner 29 Replies latest jw friends

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  AlanF

  I've heard from Bethel insiders that what actually happened is that Freddie Franz was surprised when his book Life Everlasting in Freedom of the Sons of God generated so much enthusiasm about 1975. After all, earlier books and Watchtower statements had said almost the same thing, but not with quite as much gusto. Then Franz himself got caught up in the enthusiasm and so did many other Watchtower leaders. They saw an opportunity to build enthusiasm for their religion, and used it to the full. It worked, because the Society had never seen such a big increase in such a short time.

  For a fairly comprehensive look at what the Society said about 1975, take a look at the essays "Notes on False Prophets" and "The WTS and the End of the World" at http://www.geocities.com/osarsif/index2.htm .

  AlanF
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  JanH

  1975 was the year when Armageddon came invisibly.

  - Jan
  --
  "Common sense is the collection of prejudices acquired by age eighteen"
  -- Albert Einstein
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  TR

  Fred=

  Still haven't pulled it out, huh?

  TR
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  zev

  hey jan...
  

  1975 was the year when Armageddon came invisibly.

  Sort of like "spiritual armagedon".

  __
  zev
  Sitting on the Wrong Side of the Fence Class
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  patio34

  Jan H,
  ROFLMAO!! Your answer Armageddon did happen--invisibly! That's priceless and right in line with all the other baloney the WTS feeds its gullible followers.

  Patio
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  arniem

  Dear Farkel
  You claim many of the so-called publications were never books. I have collected as many of the
  old and out of print books and writings as possible. Many from the late 1800's and early 1900's.
  Very expensive and hard to find rare copies. I even have an original edition book from 1921
  titled "The Harp Of God" "Millions now living will never die" by J>F> Rutherford. This edition
  was quickly revised because the untruths were exposed shortly afterwards. I have the original
  version . This book as well as most of the early writings show the teachings and prophesies have
  gone through so many changes they should not be considered reliable. With this in mind it is best
  to stick with the bible for truth
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  Farkel

  arniem,

  There were at least three editions of the "Harp" book and they dated from 1921 to the 1940's. Comparing those editions is quite revealing. Same book, same name, different edition, brand new crap.

  The WTS is so kewl, someone should make a REAL movie out of their history. And Lies. At least five or six people might actually pay to watch it. If they could get matinee prices. On a weekday. Early in the morning. If they have free passes.

  Farkel
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  arniem

  Farkel
  The reason the book I have is so rare is because the WTS had its members cut out the offending
  pages and burn them so that the evidence could not be used against them. I have the original
  un-cut version. Some day when I feel up to it I will type up the contents of the missing pages
  so that Rutherford can be shown as great a liar as Russel was.
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  larc

  Diner,

  I see that this is your first post. I would recommend that you read the quotes provided on this thread that show actual statements of what they thought before 1975. Then, talk in person to a Witness who is active. They will tell you a different story from what you have read. Their religion has a way of getting them to distort reality after the fact. If they came in after 1975, and you tell them about the quotes, they won't believe you.
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  arniem

  Diner
  If you are brave enough to search back, you will find many many JW prophesies for the world to
  end, none have yet to happen including 1975. The best thing to do is find an accurate Bible
  and read the prophesies. The world does not in fact end. The Temple has first to be rebuilt
  in Jerusalem, The Anti-Christ sets himself up in the temple and demands worship, Armegeddon
  happens, Christ returns, 1000 years of peace, Everything rebuilt, eternal life.