by John Aquila 28 Replies latest watchtower beliefs
umbertoecho:
"One thing I vividly recall was being told that my sorrow over the recent death of my youngest daughter, was in fact showing a lack of faith in the resurrection."
What did those morons want you to do...hop, skip and dance for joy? Pathetic.
"Ray had no significance on my leaving the JWS, its was my own instinct and personal integrity that drew myself out.
"Pre inter net I might add."
Same here but I was df'd for apostasy around the same time he was and the book that he wrote later on did have an impact on me emotionally confirming what I already knew.
CoC helped me so much, I'm so grateful for Ray Franz and the decisions he made. After I read the book I knew there was no going back to that disgusting, filthy hypocritical org.
I have seen and heard elders and pioneers (aka "Pillars" - puke) talk so mean to ones who had lost close family members in death. One gal's mother had died of cancer in the hospital and there was some details in the story that I never got - but people were so unfeeling and had no sympathy for a young woman grieving her mom. She cried and told me that they said she "should have gotten over it by now." I said you won't ever get over it, that's your mom!
HUGE red flag, right? I just put it behind me and kept right on in that sickening cult. Until a bunch of crap happened to ME. Then I started looking stuff up about the WT, and here is one of the first videos I watched. It's still my favorite:
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCb2RHsv55znuleKy4P9TSyA
Marina
Finkelstien: "Ray had no significance on my leaving the JWS, its was my own instinct and personal integrity that drew myself out.
"Pre inter net I might add."
Me too Finkel even to this day I have only read parts of that book.I have never read it in it's entirety.
Village Idiot same with you too eh.
For the life of me I can't explain why? I really can't!
Congratulations all on trusting your instincts.
This used to be a very lonely row to hoe!
You can say that again was it ever! I shudder to think of it now! I was younger then. I would sure hate to be faced with the same departure scenario today at my stage of life.
When I first read Ray's book Crisis of Conscience, I already had serious doubt about the Org. It was the spring of 1984, Watchtower Vatican II was over, and the purges were in full swing. Reading COC was liberating, and That fall I resigned as an elder and quickly faded.
However, If Ray Franz had not been DFd, and kept his mouth shut about the Org, my exit would have been delayed a year or two. I probably would have stayed in a little longer, hoping for reform. But there is no way that I would have stayed in with the doctrinal changes and the oppressive atmosphere that developed after Ray's removal from the GB.
I had made my decision and left The Lie before I read COC and ISOCF by Ray Franz. But I will be eternally grateful to him for his brave and conscientious actions, and for his books.
I believe that his books accelerated my recovery process no end, once they were read in the early weeks of my leaving the Borg I had no lingering doubts as to whether there was anything worthy in the JW Scam. I no longer felt they had any unique teaching that was correct, and I firmly believed that the leadership, the G.B et al, was corrupt.
Ray also took the time to send me a wonderful e-mail, I had asked him not to, I just e-mailed him to let him know how much I appreciated his works, but nevertheless he took the time to reply to me. An exceptionally loving man, of tremendous stature.
CoC definitely helped me be more open to questioning things but the doubts were there already.
I don't think we shall ever see anyone in the GB do what Ray did ever again.
