Do you think this 1st century relic is authentic?

by Gopher 22 Replies latest jw friends

  • Gopher
    Gopher

    http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&u=/ap/20021021/ap_on_re_us/jesus_inscription_6

    Scholar Touts Oldest Link to Jesus Mon Oct 21, 5:11 PM ET

    By RICHARD N. OSTLING, AP Religion Writer

    WASHINGTON (AP) - A burial box that was recently discovered in Israel and dates to the first century could be the oldest archaeological link to Jesus Christ, according to a French scholar whose findings were published Monday.


    AP Photo

    An inscription in the Aramaic language "James, son of Joseph, brother of Jesus" appears on an empty ossuary, a limestone burial box for bones.

    Andre Lemaire said it's "very probable" the writing refers to Jesus of Nazareth. He dates the ossuary to A.D. 63, just three decades after the crucifixion.

    Lemaire, a specialist in ancient inscriptions at France's Practical School of Higher Studies, published his findings in the November/December issue of Biblical Archaeology Review.

    The Rev. Joseph Fitzmyer, a Bible professor at Catholic University who studied photos of the box, agrees with Lemaire that the writing style "fits perfectly" with other first century examples. The joint appearance of these three famous names is "striking," he said.

    "But the big problem is, you have to show me the Jesus in this text is Jesus of Nazareth, and nobody can show that," Fitzmyer said.

    Lemaire writes that the distinct writing style, and the fact that Jews practiced ossuary burials only between 20 B.C. and A.D. 70, puts the inscription squarely in the time of Jesus and James, who led the early church in Jerusalem.

    All three names were commonplace, but Lemaire estimates only 20 Jameses in Jerusalem during that era would have had a father named Joseph and a brother named Jesus.

    Moreover, naming the brother as well as the father on an ossuary was "very unusual," Lemaire wrote. There's only one other known example in Aramaic. Thus, this particular Jesus must have had some unusual role or fame and Jesus of Nazareth certainly qualified, Lemaire concluded.

    However, Kyle McCarter, a Johns Hopkins University archaeologist, said it's possible the brother was named because he conducted the burial or owned the tomb.

    The archaeology magazine said two Israeli government scientists conducted a detailed microscopic examination of the surface and the inscription, reporting last month that nothing undercuts first century authenticity.

    Lemaire's claim was attacked by Robert Eisenman of California State University, Long Beach, who unlike most scholars thinks that "Jesus' existence is a very shaky thing." Since Eisenman is highly skeptical about New Testament history, he considers the new discovery "just too pat. It's just too perfect."

    Virtually all that is known about Jesus comes from the New Testament. No physical artifact from the first century related to him has been discovered and verified.

    James is depicted as Jesus' brother in the Gospels and head of the Jerusalem church in the Book of Acts and Paul's epistles.

    The first century Jewish historian Josephus recorded that "the brother of Jesus the so-called Christ, James by name," was stoned to death as a Jewish heretic in A.D. 62. If his bones were placed in an ossuary the inscription would have occurred the following year, around A.D. 63.

    Until now, the oldest surviving artifact that mentions Jesus is a fragment of chapter 18 in John's Gospel from a manuscript dated around A.D. 125. It was discovered in Egypt in 1920.

    There are numerous surviving manuscripts of New Testament portions from later in that century. Jesus was mentioned by three pagan authors in Rome in the early second century and by Josephus in the late first century.

    The ossuary's owner required Lemaire to shield his identity, so the box's location was not revealed. Nor is anything known about its history over the past 19 centuries, one reason for McCarter's caution.

    Biblical Archaeology Review editor Hershel Shanks said skepticism is to be expected. "Something so startling, so earth-shattering, raises questions about its authenticity," he said.

    Shanks said the owner bought the box about 15 years ago from an Arab antiquities dealer in Jerusalem who said it was unearthed south of the Mount of Olives. The owner never realized its potential importance until Lemaire examined it last spring.

    Lemaire, who was raised Roman Catholic, said his faith did not affect his judgment, since he studies inscriptions only "as a historian that is, comparing them critically with other sources."

    The archaeology magazine is negotiating to display the box in Toronto during a major convention of religion scholars in late November, and possibly in the United States.

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    Biblical Archaeology Review: http://www.bib-arch.org

  • SixofNine
    SixofNine

    Authentic? I think most likely. I do hope the owners will make it available for full scientific scrutiny.

  • dsgal
    dsgal

    I don't know whether it's authentic or not but could someone please tell me how they got a person's bones in such a small box?Did they cut them up or wait for the flesh to deteriorate or what?

  • SixofNine
    SixofNine

    usually these are the bodies of people who died while doing yoga. they didn't have floor mats or leotards back then, so it was a far more dangerous sport.

  • roybatty
    roybatty

    Thanks for the post. But I wonder what impact it will have. Those who don't believe in Jesus still won't and those who do will still believe in him.

  • Xander
    Xander

    The ossuary's owner required Lemaire to shield his identity, so the box's location was not revealed. Nor is anything known about its history over the past 19 centuries, one reason for McCarter's caution.

    How convenient.

    Authentic? I think most likely

    Based on what?

    Shanks said the owner bought the box about 15 years ago from an Arab antiquities dealer in Jerusalem who said it was unearthed south of the Mount of Olives. The owner never realized its potential importance until Lemaire examined it last spring.

    That just reeks of 'hoax'. "The owner never realized its potential" - oh, no, of course not, finding an antique w/ Aramaic writing on it, buried underground followed by 19 centuries of sand over THAT, he certainly never had someone read it right away. Or, maybe he did, and he just didn't know that something like 90% of the population of the most powerful nation on Earth happens to believe that someone named 'Jesus' who was 'James' brother and the son of 'Joseph' was their personal saviour and would pay millions to have this in a museum if it was authentic.

    OR....maybe the whole thing is a hoax.

  • willy_think
    willy_think

    The odds are it's not authentic. Any dealer in antiquities would know that an authentic relic like that one would have a price tag with 6 or 7 figures.

    some dealers sell bones of the saints scraps from there clothing for a very affordable price. Buyer beware.

  • RunningMan
    RunningMan

    Authentic? Well, it certainly is a real box.

    Does it belong to Jesus of Nazareth? Not likely. Most fictional composite characters do not require a physical burial.

    This is about as likely as finding Zeus's razor.

  • SixofNine
    SixofNine

    Don't worry the naysayers will be tearing the story apart to find any misgivings.

    And wouldn't it be nice if the people who want to believe had the same intellectual honesty as the naysayers. You don't find out the truth of a matter by being uncritical.

  • kenpodragon
    kenpodragon

    I think modern Christians want it to be real, and thus they will do everything they can to accept and prove that. If in the end, it ever was. Does not really mean anything to them, they will still accept the turth that means something to them.

    My thought

    Dragon

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