Biblical Inerrancy

Francois

Is there any denial that at 1 Kings 7:23, the value of Pi is ascertained as 3.000?

And where does this leave the idea that the bible is inspired in every word, jot, and tittle by God? Just wondering.

Any takers?

Francoise

patio34

Welcome, Francoise, to the forum.

Your question is very interesting.

But one thing I don't care to do for quite a while is Bible research.

Just wanted to extend a welcome!

Patio

Thanks for your welcome. And please note that it doesn't take but a jiffy to read a couple of verses and realize that the subject scripture indeed indicates that Pi, according to the writer, is 3.0. That Jehovah character is some kinda mathemetician, ain't he?

Don't that make you wonder what ELSE in the scriptures is in error, even before the J-DUBS got ahold of it and wrote their own version?

Carmel

Well if the prophetic year can be rounded off from 365 to 360, then its a simple matter to round 3.1416 off to 3.0. Geeze youse guys, where's yer hermeneutics!! (don't know how to add that damn smilie thingie)

carmel

Francois

Hermeneutics? Hermeneutics? Isn't that where you fool around with the meaning of scriptures to make them comport more closely with your pre-conceived notions of what you want the bible to say?

Sort of like re-translating "The kingdom of heaven is within you," to "The kingdom of heaven is in your midst"? We wouldn't want to get the notion that our relationship with God is direct. Hell, that would mean we didn't need any "organization" that God was using as his only "channel of communication" to the world today, wouldn't it? And damn. How would the J-Dubs get their magazines sold? And their real estate bought? And stuff like that there?

Why, hell fire, we'd be free of organizations forever! Come to think of it. I believe I'll try that and see what happens.

patio34

Francoise,

You may want to look at the thread on page 2 "The Bible Math . . . " that has some posts on your subject.
Cheers!

Patio

arniem

I read an article on the bowl dimensions equaling pi. The measurements are for the inside of the container
and the sides of the container are a handsbreath in width . The researcher then surveyed the size
of an average handsbreath and using the calculation the diameter equals pi. This could be used as
evidence of bible accuracy because the formula for pi is only a recent finding by man whereas
the bible has had it for thousands of years

Francois

So what's your point?

Dodges like yours are legion. "We don't know what a cubit is." "The bowl was tapered, and the measurements were taken at different places." "The thickness of the bowl must be taken into consideration." "Two different people measured the bowl. One for the diameter, one for the circumference, and they made combination errors." "Two different people measured the bowl, and they used different measuring instruments." And all sorts of other dodges. Several years ago, a Missouri state legislator introduced a bill to define Pi as 3.0 to get around the problem.

Anything but the obvious.

The difference in the thickness of the bowl at these measurements would be something like one and a half cubits, or 27 inches or so. Anyway you slice it, you could drive a Mac truck through this hole in the inerrancy argument.

Too bad.

Francoise

Moxy

i agree that there could be other ways of constructing the bowl in question to make the measurements come out right but it doesnt seem very important to me. the scripture is not about math, its just a measurement. its not predicting that a bowl of 10 cubits diam. will have a circumference of 30. theyre just measuring the thing and saying roughly how big it was. to me, it doesnt say anything about the hebrew's math abilities (or biblical inspiration) one way or another.

the theory about the hebrew letters equaling numbers is right up there with the bible code guy tho.

mox

arniem

Ok then , could I not use the same argument that you are unable to determine the value of 3.0 in your claim

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