Sound Familiar (Mormonism)

by Scorpion 12 Replies latest watchtower beliefs

  • Scorpion
    Scorpion

    Cursed Be The Man That Trusteth In Man

    Mormon leaders have instilled a necessity for complete submission and obedience
    from their followers. It is a form of mind control that conditions Mormons not to take
    seriously anything that might seem to contradict or go against their beliefs-they are
    not to think for themselves just trust and obey! Most do not even realize (or
    wouldnt openly admit) that this is true, however, following are a few excerpts that
    speak for themselves:
    Any Latter-day Saint who denounces or opposes, whether actively or otherwise,
    any plan or doctrine Advocated by the prophets, seers, and revelators of the
    Church is cultivating the spirit of
    apostasyLuciferwins a great victory when he can get members of the Church
    to speak against their leaders and to do their own thinkingWhen they point the
    way, there is no other which is safe. When they give direction, it should mark the
    end of controversy.(Improvement Era, June 1945, pg. 354)

    This practice of exercising authoritative control over the people was established right
    from the beginning. Joseph Smith once stated: God made Aaron to be the mouth
    piece for the children of Israel, and He will make me be god to you in His stead,
    and the Elders to be mouth for me; and if you dont like it, you must lump it.
    (History of the Church, Vol.6, pgs. 319-320).
    At another time, Herber C. Kimball,
    First Councilor to Brigham Young, made this statement: When brother Joseph
    Smith lived, he was our Prophet, our Seer, and Revelator; he was our dictator in
    the things of God, and it was for us to listen to him, and do just as he told us.
    (Journal of Discourses, Vol.2, pg. 106.)
    As with most of Mormonisms teaching,
    the Bible speaks just the opposite. Jeremiah 17:5 says, Thus saith the Lord,
    cursed be the man that trusteth in man, and maketh flesh his arm, and whose
    heart departeth from the Lord.

    What is so sad and cunning in all of this is that the Mormon people are even lulled
    into thinking that if they are ever led astray by their leaders, they will not be held
    accountable for their wrong actions. Herber C. Kimball said, If you do things
    according to counsel and they are wrong, the consequences will fall on the
    heads of those who counseled you, so dont be troubled. (William Claytons
    Journal, pg.335). President Herber J. Grand said, and if he (the prophet)
    ever tells you to do anything and it is wrong, and you do it, the Lord will bless
    you for it. (Conference Report, Oct. 1960, pg.78).

    Again the Bible gives just the opposite warning. "Now if a person sins and does
    any of the things which the Lord has commanded not to be done, though he was
    unaware, still he is guilty, and shall bear his punishment." Lev. 5:17

    Isaiah 9: 13-16 says:
    13. For the people do not turn to him who strikes them, Nor do they seek the
    Lord of hosts.
    14. Therefore the Lord will cut off head and tail from Israel, Palm branch and
    bulrush in one day.
    15. The elder and honorable, he is the head; The prophet who teaches lies, he is
    the tail.
    16. For the leaders of this people cause them to err, And those who are led by
    them are destroyed.

  • RevMalk
    RevMalk

    wild

  • A Paduan
    A Paduan

    I think that one day, when our race is more advanced, they'll make laws against people doing that sort of stuff to others - it'll be a serious criminal activity with a serious sort of punishment.

  • gumby
    gumby

    they'll make laws against people doing that sort of stuff to others - it'll be a serious criminal activity with a serious sort of punishment

    The problem is: when these groups eqate the sayings of their leaders, to the sayings of the bible itself, then the rulers would have to decide which is true. .....then it's rule by man once again.

  • A Paduan
    A Paduan

    I disagree - when the law makers make such a rule it will be due to a spiritual movement in them that seeks kindness, regardless of what anyone "thinks" that the bible says. Such then is not a man made rule - but rather a metaphysical integrity.

  • gumby
    gumby

    it will be due to a spiritual movement in them that seeks kindness, regardless of what anyone "thinks" that the bible says. Such then is not a man made rule - but rather a metaphysical integrity.

    And where can I get a copy of this information you have? At barnes and Nobel?

  • shera
    shera

    My mother visited the new mormon church here,and she was sicked of how rich it was.Very beautiful though.....

    There is one room that has a curtian drawn over and no man,unless he is "good" like Jesus,can enter.Yeh....right!

  • A Paduan
    A Paduan

    And where can I get a copy of this information you have? At barnes and Nobel?

    No - inside yourself - when someone does what is right, regardless of every personal cost, including the proposed 'divine wrath', is that a man made thing?

    I tend to think that it's another sort quality we have, one that we didn't make.

    paduan

  • Mulan
    Mulan

    Hahhahha. Now I know why all the Mormons I worked with, after I left the borg, looked at each other so weird, when I told them my story of leaving the JW's. They are exactly the same.

  • Scorpion
    Scorpion

    shera,

    The room where the curtain was drawn may be where one of the endowment ceremonies are held or possibly where the Baptisms are held for the living and the dead.

    Scorpion

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