Letter from Watchtower Australia to Governing Body (Watchtower Pennsylvania) regarding disclosure of information to secular authorities.

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  • C0ntr013r
    C0ntr013r

    I found this interesting document among the files watchtower sent to the Royal Commission:

    Letter from Watchtower Australia to Governing Body (Watchtower Pennsylvania) regarding disclosure of information to secular authorities.

    Scroll 1/3 of the way down on this page to find it:

    http://www.childabuseroyalcommission.gov.au/exhibits/636f01a5-50db-4b59-a35e-a24ae07fb0ad/case-study-29,-july-2015,-sydney

    Up till now the brothers generally expect that the elders will keep all matters confidential, since this has been stressed a number of times. In Australia, it has happened that some elders have been prepared to accept punishment for contempt of court rather than disclose confidential information. However, we are now saying that elders should comply with the law where mandatory reporting is required if there is no exemption available to them.


    The situation will no doubt arise at some time where elders will have to disclose some information concerning child abuse, either to the secular authorities or even in open court if they are called upon to answer. Our feeling is that it may seem to publishers that the elders are treating confidential matters lightly. Also, it may be that some who have sinned would hesitate to talk to the elders if they thought that elders would not respect confidentiality.You asked us to set out what we believe would help in Our Kingdom Ministry if we feel it is really needed.


    It has been suggested that the following be printed in a Question Box in Our Kingdom Ministry. It would not be necessary to schedule it as part of the service meeting program, unless we simply ask the Presiding Overseer or another elder simply to read the question and answer in the Announcements part of the meeting.


    Question: Should elders supply information to secular authorities when they learn that a brother or sister has been involved in a serious crime?

    Answer: Information given to elders is treated as confidential and is not discussed with others who are not involved. (w71 4/1, pp. 222-4) All Christians are counseled by God’s Word to be law-abiding, and they are to pay to Caesar what is Caesar’s where there is no conflict with God’s laws. (Matthew 22:21; w90 11/1 pp. 10-15, 18-28) When Christians obey Caesar’s laws that are not in conflict with God’s laws, they have no need to “fear” punishment from the authorities as law-breakers, and they can maintain a good conscience.—Romans 13:3, 4.


    If an elder learns of some serious crime on the part of a member of the congregation, he may, in some circumstances, be obliged by law to report the matter or to provide some information to secular authorities. It is not the responsibility of the elders to enforce Caesar’s laws, but the very nature of some crimes demands that they be reported, or that they be dealt with by Caesar, for this is the “arrangement of God.” (Romans 13:2) Even in such cases, it is important that the elders maintain confidentiality to the CONFIDENTIAL (RC) WAT.0012.001.0009 Governing Body, Service Committee From Australia Branch April 28, 1998 No. 212 Page 2 extent possible, and elders should always contact the Society before providing any information on confidential matters to secular authorities.


    Elders prove to be a “hiding place from the wind” to all in the congregation who are truly repentant, and they try to “readjust such a person,” no matter how serious the sin committed. (Isaiah 32:2; Galatians 6:1) However, while Jehovah forgives repentant sinners, there may be consequences of the actions of the sinner that cannot be avoided. Depending on the law of the land, the sinner may have to face sanctions from the state, or even serve a prison term. The congregation will not protect him from that.—See The Watchtower, January 1, 1997, page 29.


    While in Brooklyn I turned in to the Service Committee a summary dated November 21, 1997 of what the Australia branch was saying. A copy is enclosed. The branch here will be happy if the Service and Writing Committees agree basically with what has been said, and we look forward to any comments or directions you may have.


    We will look forward to your further comments on any of these matters. We realize that this is a complicated subject with many ramifications, and we appreciate the careful consideration given to the matter by the Governing Body. We have a current case under way which we are handling according to our past policies, so we would appreciate your comments as soon as convenient. We take this opportunity of sending our warm love. Your brother, H. V. Mouritz For the Branch Committee AUSTRALIA BRANCH Encl.






  • Oubliette
    Oubliette

    However, we are now saying that elders should comply with the law where mandatory reporting is required if there is no exemption available to them.

    Translation: Elders should only do the right thing when required by law and "there is no exemption available to them."

    Let's review: It's a cult!

  • DATA-DOG
    DATA-DOG

    Do the right thing if it's required by law. What a great example from Jesus'brothers and the stars of Revelation!

    DD

  • _Morpheus
    _Morpheus
    *deleted post. Wrong thread
  • wifibandit
    wifibandit
    we are now saying that elders should comply with the law

    What were they saying before??

  • SecretSlaveClass
    SecretSlaveClass
    Wow the incriminating documents just keep rolling in. Nice find!
  • Calebs Airplane
    Calebs Airplane
    Translation: "Because it costs too much money to provide legal representation to elders who are found to be in contempt, we are now saying that it is OK for elders to divulge information on just how fucked up we really are, but only if you have no other choice."
  • flipper
    flipper

    WIFIBANDIT- You asked in regards to the WT statement, " we are now saying that the elders should comply with the law ".

    You asked, " What were they saying before ? "

    WT leaders were saying, " You should skirt around the law and not get into any unnecessary entanglements with law authorities regarding confidential matters as this could result in unnecessary lawsuits towards the WT Society. "

    In a nutshell that's what they HAVE been saying. Possibly WT leaders are trying to SAY the right thing to the Australia commission to make a good impression - but when things cool down and the commission looks away just for a minute- WT Society will go back to their status quo skirting the law type of practices. My 2 cents

  • TheWonderofYou
    TheWonderofYou

    Here in the letter i am missing what happened to the victims, not mentioned. Only the criminal abuser is mentioned, so how would elders care for mostly female victims?

    THAT is not counselled by gods word and thus not important or csn be managed by the elders secretly?

    ELDERS are seen as "hiding place", but do they alone have responsibility for law-obidience in the congregation, (in this letter always elders seem to have responsibility) and not all christians.?

    Should not each christian, publisher or elder have the morsl and ethic responsibility to go to police and not to elders?

    "Privilege" in USA anf UK, they want a privilege for the elders, whereas the single christian publisher is again not encouraged to have civil courage but to go to unprofessional sheperds, who are not able to care for victims but ss hiding plave experts in silencing by subtle methods.

    "It is not the responsibility of the elders to enforce Caesar's laws" is horrible JW Attitude. They wanna be law obidient but not enforcing any law,this is in view of the suffering victims of abuse civil ignorance, unethical dangerous, not pro active . Not enough Are they not allowed to elect but even worse not allowed to make Caesar suggestions how to avoid crime in their own house.?

    Is constantly writing and argumenting with "mandatory laws" not a method to forget thst all christians have a moral responsibility and to forget the care of the victims?

  • Vidiot
    Vidiot
    S.S.D.D.

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