HOW BETHELITES MAKE MONEY

by JT 23 Replies latest jw friends

  • JT
    JT

    What is G-JOBBING___

    It is called Government work- it refers to GOV employees being lazy and just getting a check

    well it has to do with bethelites being too lazy to go out and get a real job so we do side jobs to make money while at bethel

    and you can make alot if you are in the right "Trade" electrician, plumber, tile setter, roofer, etc and it is all tax free

    the Congo in NYC would pay you to work on their halls since most jw in NY are white collar and not tradesmen

    we even did work for NONJW- using WT tools , supplies and Trucks and since it was always at COST it was cheap --can you imagine what it would cost to rent a FLATBED truck in NYC to hall Dry wall 2 blocks- smile

    all you needed to do was to get the guys who worked in that dept to requisition it under their name- they didn't even need to be there , but they would get their cut- lot of Elders headed up these work teams

    so we would use the buying power of the Society to get these supplies for halls and bro in there home many times

    some guys were clearing $3,000 a month tax free- bethel has cracked down on it by requiring you to sign a VOW OF POVERTY which is a form from the IRS saying you will not do any side jobs-

    also the waiters did lots of G-JOBBING if anyone has been to bethel for lunch they are always impressed with how over 6000, folks can be served in less than 20min- well this is were the waiters come in at

    folk like to use the bethelites at thier weddings to serve their guest
    and if you are talking references just watch the mothers and fathers who have daugthers getting married in a few weeks come up to you afterward and ask you to do thier kids wedding

    so the money rolls in beside everyone figures who BETTER TO HELP THAN THE LOWLY BETHELITES

    smile

    the BREAKER was some guys did a job and the person filed for it on his taxes --of course the IRS wants to know who do we get our money from

    well I'd be Damn-- if it ain't some guys who is suppose to be living off $90.00 a month smile

    so the society got involved and shut down most of the best money making jobs-

    from what I understand you can still do it but you have to go through a lot of hoops

    so many guys were missing meetings on the weekend and wiped out on Monday that flags started going up- we had this old nurse Called Sophie ----all my god she would worry you to death if you called in sick on a MONDAY were you out late Sunday night- what time did you get in, etc

    old bag man

    we had a plumbing job that was bidded out by a Congo in Queens with UNION NYC plumbers that was for $32,000, $36,000 and there was another bid price

    so the elders asked the bethelites could we do it- it was a complete job from the street to the inside of the hall to toilets and sinks and tile job

    well we could not ask for a set price but only tell the elders WHATEVER YOU BROTHERS WANTED TO GIVE US

    well they presented it to the Congo and they came back with $25,000 offer and it would be just 5 of us and they would supply all the manual labor through the local bros.

    we are talking $5,000 a piece - no taxes -in a weekend baby with a few follow up days to clean up any leftovers

    one of the guys was a MASTER PLUMBER SO HE always got the permits we needed from the city- due to the large amount we got cold feet so we talked with Ralph Walls about it and he told us we needed to consider how would it look with that sum of cash in 2days of work- where in fact it would have been no work at all since we would have merely been overseeing the local guys doing all the digging of the trenches SMILE HEY YOU GOT TO LOVE IT MAN

    so we turned it down- DAMN I SHOULD HAVE DONE IT

    there is one guy and some of the bethelites on the net know this guy he ran the ROOFING DEPT as the overseer and was (REMOVED FROM THAT JOB FOR THIS REASON) and since all the roofs in NYC on the halls are flat--they are always leaking due to water standing on them

    well he would take SOME OF his crew and knock out a roof over a weekend and man he was clocking over 3K amonth, not bad considering you don't have any expenses

    but the most famous G -JOBBER OF ALL TIME WAS a bro from out of Texas if I'm correct- any bethelites here will correct me if I'm wrong on the state he is from

    any way his name was James (JIM) Spencer he was the photography overseer and he had access to the society's $Million dollar cameras and film and processing equipment and he used to shoot WEDDINGS ON THE WEEKEND- hey like I said YOU GOT TO LOVE IT

    NOW CK THIS OUT I had a buddy who was in on the deal-- he worked at the Stanley theater- that is the most expensive assembly hall in the wt arsenal of assembly hall probably

    you all know it --the million dollar chandelier- anyway one of my boys was assigned as a keeper when they used bethelites---- now they have a pioneer couple over there --old Ricketts and he is a LITTLE HUSTLER as well

    anyway Jim would arrange to use the assembly hall to take couples pictures

    and I tell you-- to have your wife coming down the GRAND STAIRCASE IN HER GOWN hey man we are talking GONE WITH THE WIND TYPE STUFF

    well my boy could have folks over to the assembly hall after hours as long as they were his guests

    man he didn't even know some of the couples

    so Spencer would kick him a little "SOMETHING -SOMETHING" SMILE

    anyway old Spencer got caught not reimbursing the Society for the equipment and since he was the Overseer of the dept no one really questioned what he was working on late at night

    hey it was not your latest mag cover shot- smile

    so the "Shit hit the fan" and my man was BUSTED DOWN FROM PHOTO OVERSEER

    to working the Bindery lines in the leather gold bible section

    it was so embarrassing cause about a month after he got SHAFTED we had an Open tour of the factory were the office guys and the home guys could come over to the factory and see how the book and mags are made

    and you guessed it ---my man James Spencer is right on the tour route and all the office guys are walking through laughing their a$$ off at him sitting there sweating with a tee shirt and blue jeans on.

    his roommate was Robbie Vela from Hawaii the big island ---he worked upstairs in the bindery on the hardback line and he told us that Spencer would come home from work when he worked in photo dept and there would be TICKETS FOR him to fly to Japan or Rome or anywhere in the world just to take a couple of rolls of film and fly back

    man we are talking about living the good life- he flew almost as much as the guys with UPI or AP wire guys

    single man living the life and since he was the PO in his hall up in the Bronx he had the best of both worlds in the local hall and at the big house

    from what I understand HE MADE A KILLING

    well it is now bed time and no more bethel stories until later

    smile

    James

    PS this is the last one it's too good to let pass

    now i earned my money when i was at bethel others don't

    as you all know by now the spokesman for the wt is a guy named JR Brown as a black man we use to call the the Society's Louis Farrakan

    the most powerful speaker every to Grace a wt mike esp in the black community

    well anyway he is ACES with larry Graham and larry is always hooking him up along with 1000's of his fans

    anyway when he bought his new car alot of the Heavies and i don't mean to get racial,but some of the White boys were not happy

    As they would say in the black Hood ""This Negro went out and bought a $45,000 car"

    my man drives a top of the line fully loaded "Q45"
    now go figure how you and i can do that off $90.00 a month

    YOU TO TO LOVE IT

  • metatron
    metatron

    Man, you trigger the memories, JT!

    For me it was cleaning and waiting. For other guys it was doing the photography at weddings.
    I never got involved in it but there was some kind of off hours work doing microfilming
    on Wall Street. Even old guys did it - except , of course, for the really rich heavies
    who owned a lot of personal investments. Some Bethelites would subcontract other Bethelites
    on floor polishing/rug cleaning jobs. I swear the guys I knew at Bethel would have dealt
    drugs if they could have.

    metatron

  • cruzanheart
    cruzanheart

    Well, hell, you guys are just destroying all of my girlish illusions! Now I wish I'd gotten accepted to Bethel - I think it would have been an excellent career move.

    Nina

  • SYN
    SYN
    I swear the guys I knew at Bethel would have dealt drugs if they could have.

    Don't speak too soon Meta!

  • Room 215
    Room 215

    Meta, you're so right about this thread being a stroll down memory lane! I do take exception to JT's characterising G-jobbers as ``lazy," however. I would work all night many times after having put in a full day at Bethel, mostly painting, plastering and sub-contracting remodeling to fellow Bethelites. Many of the affluent people living in Brooklyn Heights recognized the Bethelites as a source of cheap, good labor. We did a lot of work in the neighboring brownstones. The worst times I had were with the Arab mechants on Atlantic Avenue... demanding and tough payers.

    While many boys had rich relatives sending them money, I needed the income to keep myself in decent clothes; I even used to send some money back home to help out my parents. I worked on many Kingdom Halls, most notably Bedford-Stuyvesant when George Couch was overseer there.... but I would never take a dime for it.

    The lack of awareness of the rank and file about G-jobbing culture is but another example of how little clued-in they are about what Bethel life is really like. Whenever I happened to mentioned anything about this subject to the local dubs, or about the myriad other things I experienced, their usual reaction is disbelief-- sometimes to the point of calling me a liar.

  • JT
    JT

    I do take exception to JT's characterising G-jobbers as ``lazy,"

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    please don't attribute the characterization to me

    G-JOBBING WAS LONG DEFINED AND IN PLACED BEFORE I EVERY STEPPED FOOT INTO BETHEL

    i just merely gave you the information that was given to me on where it came from and how it was defined- the mere thought of leaving bethel to go out and struggle like most jw was most feared among bethelites

    so the phrase being lazy is in the context of not doing the manual labor persay for i was a plumber and aint nothing as heavy as a damn 12in 20foot pc of steel pipe you and 2 other guys are trying to unload off a truck.

    the lazy is the context THAT many jw outside of bethel knew that bethelites enjoyed being taken care - the job you and i and so many others did was money on the side WITH NO TAXES

  • JT
    JT
    I swear the guys I knew at Bethel would have dealt
    drugs if they could have.

    YEP the way some guys hustled was unreal

    do you recall the guys who did the NAMES ON THE GOLDLEAF BIBLES

    this one guy used to go and get SECOND BIBLES the ones with defects in them and would cover up the little stamp inside that said "SECONDs" and would put folks names on the bible and NEVER SELL THEM OF COURSE , but only what you think it is worth "bro and sister well to do"

    - i know guys who would take a bible and sell- opps i meant allow the friends to pay him $20 for it now is that a great way to make a quick $200 bucks in a couple of hours or what

    esp since it would be used to buy BEER AND PIZZA

  • JT
    JT
    Whenever I happened to mentioned anything about this subject to the local dubs, or about the myriad other things I experienced, their usual reaction is disbelief-- sometimes to the point of calling me a liar

    BOY DO I RECALL FOLKS say NO WAY JT no way

    the jw mindset will not allow them even to concieve anything negative about the org how sad

  • roybatty
    roybatty
    VOW OF POVERTY which is a form from the IRS saying you will not do any side jobs-

    My brother-in-law, Jason Hentges, use to tell me all kinds of stories about doing side-jobs while he was at Bethel. There was one non-Bethel brother who owned a construction company in NYC and he'd use Bethelites. Everyone would be like "Aw...isn't that so nice that he's helping those poor brothers" all the while he's paying them half what he'd half to pay a "worldly" person. Geez, what a scam!

  • nita6368
    nita6368

    Just a correction...not all government employees are lazy. I am a government employee, I don't have a state car, I don't have a fancy office. Any time off I have to earn. I have to account for my day in 30 minute increments on my time sheet. No one just gives me a check. Let's see I deal with abused children, the parents that abuse them and the women who have had the hell beaten out of them by their boyfriend, husband, live-in, I guess that makes my "free" check worthwhile. Oh and one more added bonus, I won't get a raise this year because the state I live in didn't pass a budget. Don't put all government workers in one basket, alot of us don't earn as much as you think we do. I have 3 children and me and them on my salary are below the federal poverty level for a family of four and I work 40 hours a week in this government job.

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