I came across some screen names in my old AOL IM account, from back when I was just another witness male desperate to marry his sister. I've ignored them for so long, but tonight, I just felt like saying hi.
This person was married, but she seemed to vaguely flirt if I remembered correctly (it's been more than 3 years), so I hoped she might be out or df'd by now. No such luck on her part.
It's an interesting look into the mind of a witness. Enjoy, you voyeuristic bastards.
Six...........: remember me?
*********: nope
*********: umm ?
Six...........: lol, didn't figure :-) you used to be a JW in Arkansas, right?
*********:im still a witness
*********:are you thinking about my daughter ashlee maybe
Six...........: nope... but I remember that you two shared a screeen name a few years ago?
*********:lol
*********:we do from time to time
Six...........: I don't think I ever talked to her.. you and I are about the same age seems like... 39?
*********:yeah im 41 now
Six...........: haha.... I love it when people are older than me , lol :D
*********:yeah i hear that
*********:fill me in on who you are again
Six...........: wow, my memory isn't as bad as I think sometimes
*********:im sorry i am home recovering from a stroke on monday
*********:so im slow right now
Six...........: oh my... my best wishes for you!!
Six...........: that's scary!
*********:i know
*********:im really still weak from it
*********:it was on my right side of my brain
Six...........: well, you are anything but slow in your typing, in that case!
*********:which affected my left side
*********:it didnt do physical damage
Six...........: was this predicted in any way? or just out of the blue?
*********:it did it to the brain
*********:it was out of the blue totally
Six...........: well, again, I'm sorry. hope you have good insurance
*********:lol
*********:i do
Six...........: good
*********:ok well where are you from again
Six...........: oh, I'm from Dallas TX..
Six...........: not sure how we ever started talking... I think you just said hi one day
*********:what hall in dallas
Six...........: ******... before that, ****t and **** ****ds in dallas...
Six...........: do you know the area?
*********:oh yeah
*********:i know friends from that area that are now in ***** dallas
Six...........: yeah? but you are in Arkansas, right?
*********:my daughter is dating a guy from out that way
*********:texarkana
Six...........: ah.. I knew I was close,
Six...........: who do you know in ***** Dallas.. that is right by me.
*********:the n******
*********:*****y and n**** they are good friends of ours
Six...........: sounds familier.. is one of them a mechanic?
*********:yep thats him
Six...........: hah smalll world, although I'm having dejavu, like we probably talked about this 3 yrs ago.
*********:i bet
Six...........: where is your daughters guy from?
*********:d****n till i think he was 18
*********:his name is s*****e *****e
Six...........: tell him I said he has a girls name :D
*********:lol
*********:is s*****e a girls name
*********:i didnt think so
*********:its a good strong name
Six...........: only ones I've ever known were girls... oh well probably made him tuff, like a boy named sue, lol
*********:yeah
*********:im trying to think of people out there
*********:but im blank
Six...........: actually, it's frightening to me how many people I can't remember their names... I haven't been in the faith for about two years now... I understand if you need to move on, btw, lol
*********:ok fill me in
*********:you are new in the truth
Six...........: no, no.. I was raised in it.. I left about 2 years ago or so... I don't have any faith in it (or any real faith of any kind, to be honest) anymore.
*********:you are inactive
*********:baptized what
*********:why would you leave jehovah
Six...........: ya know, this might not be a great time to talk about things that raise blood pressure ;-) what do ya think?
*********:oh im just very curious as to why
*********:i find it so odd
Six...........: I know, it would have seemed odd to me 3 or 4 years ago... but seriously, this is probably not a good time for you.. I shouldn't have brought it up.
*********:i mean did you start working too much
*********:get sidetracked what?
*********:im cool really
Six...........: ok.. but seriously, we aren't going to see eye to eye, so if you need to not talk about it further, tell me, or just hang up, lol... I may not be a witness, but I certainly don't want your health on my hands, lol
*********:awe thanks
*********:so what really is the issue
*********:ill tell you if i dont feel like talking about it ok
Six...........: for me, the one that made me see that the governing body were just some old white guys with no special connection to God, was the blood issue... when I researched it heavily, I found it lacking.....
*********:hmm
*********:well not all are white
*********:and the blood issue well
Six...........: ..... and realized with great pain that I likely would have sacrificed my daughter on an alter of shoddy bible scholarship....
*********:really
*********:well my husband had no blood heart surgery
Six...........: up till a couple years ago, they were all white... but that is beside the point, not sure why I threw that in actually, lol
*********:and his siblings had blood with theres
*********:and i can tell you from first hand
*********:he did better than them
*********:so im an advocate of no blood even if he wasnt a witness
Six...........: and that is great, but it doesn't change the fact that blood is the ONLY thing that will save a life sometimes.
*********:well why do you feel so strong
*********:about it anyways
*********:i mean it is all about faith in the one who knows best for us
Six...........: because when lives are at stake... you don't play fast and loose with scripture to get your way... you put the facts out there, and let individuals decide.... and you DAMN well better put ALL the facts out there, when lives are at stake.
*********:well we know going in as a witness what the bible says
*********:and we take precautions up front
*********:so that when it does come up
*********:we are prepare
*********:d
Six...........: And the one who knows best for us, has been proven time and time again not to be the governing body of jehovahs witnesses. they are simply wrong more than they are right, on virtually every subject
*********:i dont even know one person on the governing body do you
*********:and ive been a witness for at least 20
*********:years so i serve jehovah
Six...........: I know a bit about them...
*********:and you know you have to have organization
Six...........: :-) actually, I don't believe you do have to have an organization... I certainly don't miss having one. but that is just me of course.
*********:if you live around people then you can say you know them right? and i dont so i cant say but i can say that i have never been sent down a bad road
*********:always taught from the bible
*********:so that is all i need to know
Six...........: like their stance on oral sex, that's from the bible, lol ;-)
*********:funny you bring that up
*********:in the paper the other day
*********:there was an article that called that sodomy
Six...........: lol, yep that's always a funny subject
*********:that was the definition anyways
Six...........: did the news reporter give Gods view on the subject?
*********:nope
*********:not at all
*********:it was a law issue in texas
Six...........: yeah, I think I read that article... it's crazy that in the year 2003 we still have laws about that in texas, imo.
*********:i think it was about gays actually
*********:i wasnt sure what the point was
Six...........: I'm sure the law was written mainly with gays in mind, but it's crazy to think that the law is still on the books... if they had ever tried to enforce it against straight people, you can bet it wouldn't be!
*********:yeah who knows
*********:do you have family in the truth
Six...........: *sigh* lol... yeah, just about everybody.
*********:you should be happy really
Six...........: ... though I'm not so keen on calling it "the truth" anymore.
*********:yeah well you will see the longer you are out in this system
Six...........: see what?
*********:it will for sure suck you up and spit you back out when it is done with you
*********:it never fails
Six...........: but isn't that just life... the same thing happens within congregations... a few are happy, but most are not....
Six...........: how many witnesses do you know on some kind of anti-depressant, prozac... etc.?
*********:most are happy a few are not
*********:none here
*********:actually mostly in bigger cities
Six...........: I knew lots
*********:is what we see
Six...........: but again, that would just mirror the larger population then
*********:well lots of people come into the truth with issues already
*********:and most of the time it can be related to their past
Six...........: my family has to see every twist and turn of history as negative... it clouds their view with a dark shadow... everything is bad and getting worse... no wonder they tend to have extra anxiety.
*********:well look at the world really what do you see good in it
Six...........: a lot really.
*********:at least with jehovah we have a happy future
*********:and really what do you want from this system
Six...........: I want what everyone wants... love, happiness, to contribute to the betterment of the world (ok, not EVERYONE, lol, but probably most)
*********:hmm
*********:yeah
Six...........: of course, JW's are included in that...but...
*********:are you married or single
Six...........: they simply decide to take a breather on the "betterment of hte world" part, save for being law abiding.
Six...........: I'm single.. got divorced about 4 years ago.
*********:oh ok
*********:how old is your daughter and was your wife a witness
Six...........: daughter is 11... ex was df'd when she left... has chosen to stay that way
*********:hmm
Six...........: and good heavens!! dating is better in the world, lol!!!
*********:wow i hate that
*********:yeah sex is free
*********:so that is the draw im sure
Six...........: lol, I knew you were going to say that!!! lol
*********:i came out of the world so im aware
Six...........: I knew you would think "that is the draw" too!
*********:yep its a given
Six...........: but it's not though
*********:but who knows who has been with who
Six...........: I won't lie.... if I want it with someone who wants it with me, and we are unattached otherwise... it's a nice part of a relationship... but that is not what I was talking about... If for instance, I had gotten involved with some other religious beliefs... I might still not have sex as an option....
*********:hmm
*********:well i guess its all in what you are looking for right
*********:i have seen both sides i prefer the truth
*********:and my daughter has told me so many times
*********:how happy she is she is saving herself for marriage
Six...........: dating as a witness is sooooooo limited. It's almost perverse. so much pretense, people can't be themselves... your "quality" as an individual potential marriage mate is determined more by your hours in service than your character.
*********:please
*********:you think
*********:that is something you will be doing longterm
Six...........: yeah, do you know of any brothers that spend time helping the poor, or something like that, but get very little time knocking on doors, that would be recommended by the PO if your daughter called to check up on them (which is a crazy little dating ritual anyway, lol)
Six...........: I don't understand about "something you will be doing longterm"?
*********:i mean when you get married
*********:you will be going in service
*********:so you need to know what they are made of right
Six...........: oh, I see.
Six...........: no, I've known alot of scumbags who were pretty comfortable with the door to door work, and therefore got the "average" in easily... but I wouldn't want them around my daughter.
*********:i wonder why you are so harsh
*********:not that im not protective
Six...........: I've known other people who it was just achingly difficult for, and therefor always struggled, who were excellent bros and sisters
*********:you know because im amom
Six...........: I was taught "godly hate' from a young age, lol :-)
*********:and ours is getting to 18
*********:and she has rarely worked with males in service
Six...........: I'm not harsh, I'm a happy pussy cat....
*********:reason being