I suppose it has nothing to at all with oil??? Idi Amin was evil, Pol Pot was evil, Joseph Stalin was the most evil man of the 20th century, and the US did NOTHING.
What if the U.N doesn't find anything in Iraq?
by kril 83 Replies latest jw friends
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Crazy,
absolutely right...the US is not the only country that does these things! and i am not at all defending the others who did or will do these things.
the Us is however the only country that tries to sell its actions by pretending its for the sake of the world and to protect freedom and democracy on this planet....that is just a f****** lie!
PS: sorry about the f* word! i watched too much Osbournes recently!
Edited by - realist on 20 December 2002 8:57:37
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yeru,
again, please cite the source of your information. it seems you read only the isreali side and not the arab side.
PS: arafat was born in jerusalem not egypt.
http://www.encyclopedia.com/html/A/ArafatY1.asp
Edited by - realist on 20 December 2002 9:14:24
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The Population of Palestine Prior to 1948
The population figures for mandatory and Turkish Palestine are of historical interest and figure in many historical debates. The Zionist claim that Palestine was "a land without a people" is challenged by pro-Palestinian historians who cite census figures showing a substantial Palestinian-Arab population by 1914. The Zionists note that most of this increase seems to have occurred after 1880, when Jews began developing Palestine. Census figures of the Ottoman Empire were unreliable. Foreign and illegal residents did their best to evade the census, as did people wishing to evade military services and taxes. The population figures of the British mandate were more reliable, but there was no census taken after 1930, or if there was, the figures were kept secret. Mandatory figures for the period after 1930 are based based on hospital and immigration records and extrapolation, it seems.
Under the British Mandate which began after WWI, Jewish population increased due to immigration, especially in the 1930s. Arab population also increased at an exceptional rate, so that according to birthrate figures, Palestinian Arabs had the highest birthrate figures of any Arab country. Joan Peters, in her book "From Time Immemorial," argues that most of this increase was in fact due to illegal Arab immigration. Norman Finkelstein and others have criticized her thesis and shown evidence of poor scholarship. Finkelstein's analysis also shows that the largest increases of Palestinian Arab population occurred close to Jewish population centers in Palestine, which would argue against the Palestinian contention that the Zionists were dispossessing Arabs. We do not know if this increase was due to population shifts in Palestine or immigration from outside Palestine. It is certain that there was at least some illegal Palestinian-Arab immigration, as noted in British mandatory reports. Immigration from Transjordan was not illegal, and was not recorded as immigration at all until 1938. During World War II, the British recruited Arab workers from the Houran in Syria and elsewhere. Arabs also came to Palestine before the war, attracted by higher wages. However, since much of the depletion of Palestinian population that had occurred in the eighteenth and nineteenth centuries was due to migration to neighboring countries, many of these returning Arabs may have been families returning to Palestine.
Population of Ottoman Palestine
The population of Ottoman "Palestine" is difficult to estimate, because:
1. There was no administrative district of Palestine. Turkish census figures were for various districts, including the Jerusalem, Acco and Nablus districts for example. The Acre district included areas in Lebanon, outside the modern borders of Palestine in which there were no Jews.
2. Turkish census figures did not include Bedouins (estamted at a few thousand) and foreign subjects, of which there were about 10,000 Jews.
3. Both Arabs and Jews avoided the Turkish census. Foreigners who were without residence permits did not want to make their presence known. Arabs and Jews wished to avoid taxes and conscription.
As the data are ambiguous, pro-Zionist and anti-Zionist sources give different estimates. The Turkish census for 1878 listed 462,465 Turkish subjects in the Jerusalem, Nablus and Acre districts: 403,795 Muslims (including Druze), 43,659 Christians and 15,011 Jews. In addition, there were at least 10,000 Jews with foreign citizenship (recent immigrants to the country), and several thousand Muslim Arab nomads (Bedouin) who were not counted as Ottoman subjects.
By 1908, according to Dr. Hala Fattah (http://www.jerusalemites.org/2_6_1.html) :" when Sultan Abdul-Hamid II's rule collapsed, it was estimated that the Jewish population of Palestine had risen to 80,000, three times its number in 1882, when the first entry restrictions were imposed." Other estimates put Jewish prewar population as low as 40,000 and as high as 100,000.
According to Arjan El Fassed in 1912 there were only 40,000 Jews and 525,000 Arabs in Palestine.
The war reduced both Arab and Jewish populations to some extent.
Population Growth Estimates under the Mandate
These estimates are based primarily on the reports of the British Mandate for Palestine and the Mandatory censuses, conducted in 1922 and 1931. All figures following 1931 are estimates. There was an unknown amount of Arab and Jewish illegal immigration, which could only be estimated by the British authorities.
Source: http://www.unu.edu/unupress/unupbooks/80859e/80859E05.htm
Population of Palestine, 1922-1942 a,b
Year Total Moslems Jews Christians Others (No.) (%) (No.) (%) (No.) (%) (No.) (%) 1922 Census 752,048 589,177 78.34 83,790 11.14 71,464 9.50 7,617 1.01 1931 Census 1,033,314 759,700 73.52 174,606 16.90 88,907 8.60 10,101 0.98 1931 c 1,036,339 761,922 73.52 175,138 16.90 89,134 8 60 10,145 0.98 1932 1,073,827 778,803 72.52 192,137 17.90 92,520 8.61 10,367 0.97 1933 1,140,941 798,506 69.99 234,967 20.59 96,791 8.48 10,677 0.94 1934 1,210,554 814,379 67.27 282,975 23.38 102,407 8.46 10,793 0.89 1935 1,308,112 836,688 63.96 355,157 27.15 105,236 8.04 11,031 0.85 1936 1,366,692 862,730 63.13 384,078 28.10 108,506 7.94 11,378 0.83 1937 1,401,794 883,446 63.02 395,836 28.24 110,869 7.91 11,643 0.83 1938 1,435,285 900,250 62.72 411,222 28.65 111,974 7.80 11,839 0.83 1939 1,501,698 927,133 61.74 445,457 29.66 116,958 7.79 12,150 0.81 1940 1,544,530 947,846 61.37 463,535 30.01 120,587 7.81 12,562 0.81 1941 1,585,500 973,104 61.38 474,102 29.90 125,413 7.91 12,881 0.81 1942 1,620,005 995,292 61.44 484,408 29.90 127,184 7.85 13,121 0.81 Source: Esco Foundation (1947).
a. Exclusive of members of His Majesty's Forces (Great Britain).
b. Adapted from table, "Estimated Population of Palestine," Statistical Abstract of Palestine 1943, p. 2.
c. The figures for 1931 and following years are as of 31 December of each year.Recorded immigration and emigration, Palestine, 1930-1939
Year or period Immigration Emigration Net immigration Jews Non-Jews Total Jews Non-Jews Total Jews Non-Jews Total 1930 4,944 1,489 6,433 1,679 1,324 3,003 3,265 165 3,430 1931 4,075 1,458 5,533 666 680 1,346 3,409 778 4,187 1932 9,553 1,736 11,289 x a x x 9,553 1,736 11,289 1933 30,327 1,650 31,977 x x x 30,327 1,650 31,977 1934 42,359 1,784 44,143 x x x 42,359 1,784 44,143 1935 61,854 2,293 64,147 396 387 783 61,458 1,906 63,364 1936 29,727 1,944 31,671 773 405 1,178 28,954 1,539 30,493 1937 10,536 1,939 12,475 889 639 1,528 9,647 1,300 10,947 1938 12,868 2,395 15,263 1,095 716 1,811 11,773 1,679 13,452 1939 16,405 2,028 18,433 1,019 977 1,996 15,386 1,051 16,437 Total 222,648 18,716 241,364 6,517 5,128 11,645 216,131 13,588 229,719 Source: Esco Foundation (1947).
a. "x" indicates that emigration was not reported.- 36. Jewish immigrants to the number of 12,868 were registered during the year. Of these, 1,753 were capitalist immigrants whose dependants numbered 1,722, 2,537 were students whose maintenance in an approved educational institution is assured, 2,573 were persons coming to employment whose dependants numbered 1,662, and 2,565 were dependants of residents of Palestine.
37. The Palestine Government has continued to take measures to check illegal immigration through the agency of His Majesty's Consular Officers abroad, by control arrangements at the ports and frontiers and by the employment of special preventive forces by land and sea.
Illicit immigration through the northern frontier is being more effectively controlled as the result of the construction of the frontier fence and frontier road and the employment of a special force of police in this area.
The improvement of the existing control of illicit immigration by sea by the establishment of an organized coast guard service was under consideration at the end of the year.
38. Seven hundred and fifty-two persons, including 103 Jews who entered Palestine surreptitiously during 1935, were later detected, sentenced to imprisonment and recommended for deportation. Seven hundred and thirty-three deportations were carried out during
the year, comprising 30 Jews and 703 other persons.- Seven Jewish and twelve other travellers were deported for overstaying their period of permitted stay in the country. In addition, 1,111
persons were summarily deported to Syria and Egypt.
Towards the close of the year illicit immigration of Jews from countries of Central and Eastern Europe appeared to be on the increase,
doubtless as a result of the further deterioration in the political, social and economic situation of Jews in those countries.Population and Land Ownership prior to the UN Partition Resolution
An Anglo-American commission of inquiry in 1945 and 1946 examined the status of Palestine. No official census figures were available, as no census had been conducted in Palestine in 1940, so all their surmises and figures are based on extrapolations and surmises. According to the report, at the end of 1946, 1,269,000 Arabs and 608,000 Jews resided within the borders of Mandate Palestine. Jews had purchased 6 to 8 percent of the total land area of Palestine. This was about 20% of the land that could be settled and cultivated. About 46% of the land belonged to Arab owners living on the land or absentee owners, and about the same amount was government land. The partition borders were drawn to give the Jews a majority within the allotted area of the Jewish state, but the land conquered during the fighting included the populous Arab areas of the Galilee, as well as Arab towns such as Lod and Ramla. Greater Jersusalem, which was to be internationalized, included about 100,000 Jews and a larger number of Arabs.