Human Compassion (page 2)

Valis

Really Xena...if Skeptic had deleted all the nasty little things he's posted then compassion would be in order, but he still keeps on posting about it, even trying to play it off like nothing ever happened, or that somehow he has been wronged...this deserves compassion? I haven't heard any appology and locking a thread means what? Yes inapropriate enough for Simon to step in, but not that somehow the originator is absolved.

Have we become so desensitized by the sterile environment of the internet that we forget that there are real people with real feeling and real problems on the other side of those words?

Hmm....perhaps, but not in this case. Oh yeah, this aint the first time he's made an ass of himself w/the ladies here...

http://www.jehovahs-witness.com/forum/thread.aspx?id=40402&site=3

BTW, speaking of waxing...you ever seen an English cucumber? Now that is unholy indeed.

Sincerely,

District Overbeer

Xena

Well I could be wrong Valis but I think the link you have there relates to when he and xw originally started their "romance" *shrug* but then again maybe not...

As I stated before, over and over again, I don't condone what he did, but at what point do you say enough is enough? And when can you be the bigger person?

This is also about another thread where the poster DID apologize, and yet people keep slamming him....

Guess it is just a general obervation about the mentality of posters...I used to disagree when people used the term "rabid pack of dogs" but now I am beginning to see what they meant.

RandomTask

Because idiots will learn if it kills them.

Xena

aaahhhh I see now Random.....self appointed teacher of the idiots of the world..

lol well I guess you should just take me out and shoot me then...

Xena of the Idiot Class (but aren't we all sometimes?)

LyinEyes

LyinEyes< - - - -- - - running thru thread naked,,,,, looking for fellow steaker Moe,,,,, wondering why everyone is playing with their vegetables,,,,,,,,,,,,, and wondering what in the world is an English cucumber and what does Valis mean by this???

Xena, forgive me for my streaking thru your thread but I was bored ..........

Seriously ,Xena, I am one if someone does something to me personally and they are truly sorry, I really do try to forget and forgive. I can hope that the board will have peace again soon, well at least until the next civil war............but time has a way of making things better. You are right we all make mistakes and say things that we wish we could take back, the bottom line really is ,,,,,, are we really sorry for it and cease the harsh words. In order to get over something that is done to you, it helps if the person that hurt you,is really sorry. I am not judging anyone here, I havent read all the threads and even if I did it is not my place to judge anyone, it wasnt done to me personally. But I can see when someone has been hurt, or when someones friend has really been hurt, it may take a little time to have things calm around here again.

LyinEyes< - - - --- - holding her melons........... honeydew of course

Xena

A DEFINITION OF FORGIVENESS

Based on Philosophical, Traditional (Hebrew, Christian, Islamic, Confucian, and Buddhist traditions, among others), Psychological and Developmental principles. Gleaned from a large survey of readings, professional dialogue, and stories of forgiveness written by volunteers.

1. What it is :

Moral It is a response to an injustice (a moral wrong).
It is a turning to the "good" in the face of this wrongdoing.
Goodwill Merciful restraint from pursuing resentment or revenge.
Generosity or offering good things such as: attention, time, remembrances on holidays.
Moral Love or contributing to the betterment of the other.
Paradoxical It is the foregoing of resentment or revenge when the wrongdoer's actions deserve it and giving the gifts of mercy, generosity and love when the wrongdoer does not deserve them.
As we give the gift of forgiveness we ourselves are healed.
Beyond duty A freely chosen gift (rather than a grim obligation).
The overcoming of wrongdoing with good.

2. What it is not:

Forgetting/Denial Time passing/ignoring the effects of the wrongdoing.
Condoning Nothing that bad happened. It was only this one time. It won't happen again.
Excusing The person did this because.....it wasn't really their responsibility.
Condemning She/he deserves to know they have wronged me.
"Forgiving" with a sense of moral superiority.
Seeking Justice or Compensation Forgiveness is not a quid pro quo deal--it doesn't demand compensation first.

3. Important Distinction:

Forgiveness: One person's moral response to another's injustice
Reconciliation: Two parties coming together in mutual respect

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tis the season, yes?

Witch Child

The more I see about the trouble between Skeptic and XW the more confused I am.....

People make mistakes... let's all forgive and move on.

peace,
Witch

MegaDude

Skeptic is getting what you normally get when you act like a flaming arsehole.

Compassion is usually given to those who are compassion themselves, Xena.

Edited by - megadude on 10 December 2002 13:16:32

xenawarrior

Xena:

you are kidding right?

There are a couple of threads that are active at this time where the original poster did or said something deemed inappropriate....this was pointed out to them...threads locked or the poster retracted what they said...it should be over right? But nooooo some people continue to kick that poster over and over and over.....with their mocking and cruel comments. Rubbing their noses in their mistakes.....

tell me you are kidding. How many posts has this person written about me- full of absolute out and out lies?

over and over and over

yep, that's pretty much the jist of what he has been doing. Over and over- he has told some lies and then added some more until folks don't know what to think. Is that not cruel?? Give me a break Xena!!!

I do agree that both parties deserve the right to present their side of the "story", but to continually and deliberately try to hurt and humiliate, that is just wrong.

I have not presented MY side of the story nor do I intend to. The person here who is "continually and deliberately trying to hurt and humilate another is the original poster in this case- and you are right- THAT is just wrong. To post sexually explicit lies about another person in an effort to humilate and discredit another is reprehensible.

it should be over right?

Yeah Xena- you are right. Why don't you go first?

Sorry but you pissed me off with this one. Post a thread to tell others to let it go? Posting this thread is a continuation of it all by itself- BY YOU. And to do so to elicit some sympathy for someone who could do something so vile boggles my mind. Compassion? Right!!!

XW of the "had enough" class

Edited by - xenawarrior on 10 December 2002 14:27:27

Xena

XW

As I mentioned in my original post this is about several threads....not just the ones concerning you xw..this is/was also about the one regarding Yizuman. And no I am not kidding, should I be?

Well I didn't count the posts made about you and am not in a position either to determine if they are lies or not...so can't really say there...I do think the people that know you both well can and will make their own determinations regardless of what is said.

Two wrongs don't make a right...just because he did it to you, which yes was wrong, does not make it right for it to be done back to him. Does it?

As I will state again...I did not specifically target your situation...it was on my mind as was the Yizman thread...and after reading a thread by ThiChi it came to mind again....

I can have sympathy for someone without condoning their actions.

Sorry you are pissed off, but I also have a right to my opinions, just as you have the right not to agree with me or like them.

As I, also, stated before I wish you only the best, I don't know the entire story nor do I want to, but I do not wish you the best at the expense of another person regardless of how vile their conduct might or might not be.

Human Compassion

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