The average witness will NEVER hear about this case ...sadly.....
'Jehovah is using the Royal commission'??.. Ok, let's work with that.
by defender of truth 17 Replies latest watchtower beliefs
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problemaddict 2
Oh man. This is just killing me. The amount of logical denial of all that is remotely reasonable is just to much to stand.
So the RC is being used by Jehovah to fix this issue......in australia......this far into the issue......after his spirit let the org do all this mess in a compounding way through policies, rouge elders, the service desk, and a coordinated effort to not "bring reproach".
Why would he choose Australia? Doesn't want it to be too noticeable?
If it isn't that, then its them being persecuted. There is no winning here.
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defender of truth
Can anyone reading this please consider the following article..
If Jehovah is using the Commission to correct his people at this time, how should they respond?
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Vidiot
If it's excused as "persecution", ask...
a) ..."being asked honest questions in a public forum is 'persecution'?"
b) ..."giving testimony when called - like Jesus and the Apostle Paul did - is 'persecution'?"
c) ..."obeying the 'superior authorities placed in their positions by God' when doing so doesn't conflict with Biblical commands is 'persecution'?"
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If it's excused as "the start of the Great Tribulation", ask...
a) ..."Where's the cry of 'Peace and Security'?"
b) ..."Isn't 'Babylon the Great' supposed to be attacked first?"
c) ..."Australia is Gog / Magog?"
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If it's excused as "Jehovah using the Commission to cleanse his Organization like he did with Babylon and Rome", remind them that when Babylon and Rome pimp-slapped Isreal, it was God's judgement...
...not a corrective or "cleansing" measure.
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Splash
I will be asking "If Satan's system had not intervened to correct and improve the WT's procedures, how many more abuse victims would be made to suffer? How many more abusers would have gone unreported to the police?" -
defender of truth
Vidiot+Splash, those are excellent questions. Nicely thought out ;) -
C0ntr013r
Have heard some JWs use that line of thinking:
"Jesus has full control of the congregations and if there is a problem he will sort it out, he might be using the RC for this purpose"
They also thought the new policies that might be introduced (if it is Jesus wish) will be applied world wide; "Jesus is using the "excellent" legal system in Australia to better protect children world wide. After this "cleansing", our accusers cant say anymore about pedophiles among JWs."
RC investigation into child abuse among JWs is faith strengthening to some?
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defender of truth
But if cleansing or correction was necessary, so is repentance..
WE publishers are told that we can't have Gods favor unless:
when we make serious mistakes, or even unintentionally cause harm to others by our decisions, we are repentant, and apologise to restore peace when necessary..
Further, if our mistakes or incompetence have caused harm that cannot be passed over, it is our duty to apologise.
An apology on behalf of the organisation is needed to restore peace, then 'works that befit repentance'. ie changes to procedures and guidance, placing child safety above child molestors' confidentiality.