Recovering from shunning Part 2

by MegaDude 18 Replies latest jw friends

  • MegaDude
    MegaDude

    One thing I found effective to recover from shunning by the JWs, which devastated me, was this truth. People tend to move in "tribes." I had been in a rather exotic and weird tribe, the Watchtower and Jehovah's Witnesses. I was leaving them and they wanted nothing to do with me. Now I needed to find a new tribe or tribes. Either that or become a hermit.

    Wow, so much to sample from outside of the walls of Watchtower Prison. It was overwhelming. How do I act? What do I say? What is it like developing close friends outside of Jehovah's Witnesses?

    Well, I didn't know the answer to any of these questions. I was such a strict little JW that I never allowed myself to form friendships outside of the Organization. Excellent work by the Watchtower installing paranoia about that.... and so many other things.

    There was the office tribe. That was kind of nice. Wow, people sure live different lives from me. I felt like a foreigner, and to some degree I still do after quite some time. Still I pushed myself and made new friends.

    One tribe I liked because of familiarity was the church tribe. Here were people who were religious without being cultish. They reminded me a lot of where I had been. They were different in one notable way: They enjoyed going to church, their services were upbeat and lively, very positive, and the music was great. You would leave there uplifted. It wasn't the chore the JWs made it. I met some of the nicest, intelligent and giving people there. Despite the fact I didn't belief half the stuff this tribe believed, I was drawn to it by the spirit of the people there. And they had organized single groups where I met friendly people.

    Of course, there's the ex JW tribe. Man, I like these people. It's like going to a bar where everybody knows your name. No long explanations needed, no puzzled looks, and everybody pretty much knows and understands you. There are two groups in my area: The party ex JWs that mostly are agnostic or atheistic in their beliefs. A much smaller group are what I call the Born-Againers, the Ex JWs who have moved on to mainstream Christianity. They had a little Christmas party last Saturday and we had a great time visiting with each other. The Ex JWs is my favorite tribe, whether agnostic or Christian or whatever.

    I tried the nightclub tribe, but I can't frigg'n hear anything in those places, much less be heard. Plus, those who have seen my salsa dancing know that exhibiting my "moves" is better left to mystery.

    This year I'm trying the singles group club tribe. I found a club with a couple of hundred members that get together to do ANYTHING: Kyaking, movies, dinner, concerts, museums, hiking. I went to one of their meet and greet things at a club in Fort Worth and met some nice people. Hopefully this will springboard into friendships and ...who knows, maybe the next Mrs. MegaDude.

    Force yourself to get out there. It wasn't easy for me. I still feel like a foreigner in a strange land many times. But I have found it ultimately rewarding.

    Good luck.

  • roybatty
    roybatty

    Great post! So very true.

  • Dogpatch
    Dogpatch

    Hi Megadude,

    I belong to the neighborhood tribe, surfers, their girlfriends, oldies and locals, lots of dogs and beach parties and good sunsets. I've tried all the other tribes as well, this is the best to me. :-))

    http://www.freeminds.org/aftrhour/life4.htm

    Randy Watters

    Net Soup!

    http://www.freeminds.org

  • SixofNine
    SixofNine

    Awesome post Jerry.

    Can I add one thing? Thanks

    Learn this: Most (if not all) people in this world are a bit unsure of their place in it, much of the time. Unsure whether or not they really fit into the particular "tribe" they are running with, and unsure whether or not they, individually, are liked, loved, worthy, etc... to fit comfortably into this "tribe" called humanity.

    Therefore, if you find yourself trying to make others feel comfortable in any given situation, you'll likely find yourself feeling more comfortable and sure of yourself at the same time.

    What you'll find is that people are people.

    Good luck with those female people Jerry, and call me when your new tribe tries kayaking; I want to try that too.

  • Iwasyoungonce
    Iwasyoungonce

    (((Jerry)))

    Nick At Nite still has Norm.

    Thank you for your/our thoughts.

    One thing I can add is when or if you are learning about the Jehovah Witnesses by the Jehovah Witnesses don't give in to feelings or pressure that you have to find a reason to validate or excuse abusive behavior. Criticism of idea's or conduct is not condemnation. The condemnation that religion holds of the world or anyone who speaks out against any act, belief, or actions by the Watchtower makes any fair criticism about the order of things all but impossible; It ends in condemnation of the religion by their actions and refusal to answer questions honestly or the unwillingness to learn rationaly. Even that is condemnation of the relgious order not the indivdual. Criticsim of the individual for being gullible.

    (First time putting all this thoughts in one paragrah. Criticism is welcome:)

  • ugg
    ugg

    megadude,,,,,,leaving the organization is like leaving a big black hole and seeing light for the first time!!! where does one start??? not easy,,,but it sounds like you are doing ok....hang in there,,,,

  • ashitaka
    ashitaka

    I still haven't made any meaningful relationships outside the borg. I guess I'm just afriad.

    I have visited exJWs (harmony, mommy/wendy, Naeblis), and they were great. But, Naebs is in Canada, Harm is in Minneapolis, and Wendy is down south. A bit of a stretch for a Jersey boy.

    I am just beginning to feel a bit of loneliness, on this, my third full year out. I'm not officially DF'd, but there are still people 'in' who are like I was, and they have the capacity to leave, and I don't want to abandon them.

    It's just so difficult to get beyond the unfriendliness of the Witnesses and become social. I'm 23, and I feel like I'm a lonely old hermit. I think I need a change.

    But, jerry, you're right. Too bad I don't live in Texas........

    ash

  • MegaDude
    MegaDude

    Ash,

    I wished you lived in this part of the country. Man, we could go to all the little known films that nobody knows about or cares about, except you and me. In a place like New Jersey there have got to be quite a few Ex'ers.

    Six said: Therefore, if you find yourself trying to make others feel comfortable in any given situation, you'll likely find yourself feeling more comfortable and sure of yourself at the same time. What you'll find is that people are people.

    So true, Six.

    Ugg, remind me to post about going to happy hour with the female staff from the office. The conversation was about toe sucking and the best vibrators. I tell ya, I had a lot to contribute to that conversation....NOT.

    Randy,

    I would like to try your tribe but trade the surf board for a sailboat or a boogie board. Unfortunately, I'm landlocked here in Texas. That's why I need to move to California or Florida. Wow, the view from your place is second to none. It seems that you and Joy2bfree share the same porch!

    Edited by - megadude on 13 December 2002 17:14:7

  • Joyzabel
    Joyzabel

    Hey Dude,

    enjoy another sunset where my tribe lives! (good thread, btw)

    \~/\~/\~/\~/\~/

    j2bf

    Edited by - joy2bfree on 13 December 2002 17:54:56

    Edited by - joy2bfree on 13 December 2002 18:11:27

    Edited by - joy2bfree on 13 December 2002 18:13:51

  • Navigator
    Navigator

    Hey Dude

    Just remember that Navigator has final approval authority on any candidates for the next "Mrs. Dude".

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