can you see the ads running showing trett walking hand and hand with Jesse and Al Sharpton
What would you call it? "Three racist hypocrites"?
Lott resigns...
by kelsey007 15 Replies latest jw friends
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NeonMadman
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crownboy
JT touched on a point I was about to make; the Republicans wanted Trent Lott out more than the Democrats did. The immediate reaction of the congressional black caucus and senator Tom Daschle was actually quite moderate. It was mostly all the conservative "talking heads" (with the notable exception of Sean Hannity), who seemed intent on seeing him go. After that, both the black caucus (excluding Rep. John Lewis) and Daschle jumped on the "lynch Lott" bandwagon which was already started full throttle by the conservatives.
I think besides the obvious impotence Trent Lott would have represented as the party leader, Republicans were quite frankly tired of what they thought was Lott's lack of leadership. His biggest gaffe, of course, was making James Jeffords so uncomfortable as to leave the republican party. With that loss went the Republicans chances to enact even bigger corporate kick backs for the rich, their opportunity to pack the federal appletate courts with right wing Federalist society hacks, and their opportunity to pay out supporters unconstitutionally by enacting the "faith based" initiatives. It was mainly the work of George W. Bush and (probable new leader) Sen. Bill Frist that has gotten the Republicans back on track to fulfilling at least some of those odious goal (well, at least I'm OK with the school vouchers program ). Trent Lott was a great fundraiser with great connections, and (like Hillary Clinton does for the Democrats) he helps alot of his collegues get money for their campaigns, etc. However, it was rather obvious he was on tenous ground at best, so the republicans jumped on this opportunity to "go in another direction".
As far as his actual comments were concerned, I had a similar reaction to JT. I guess I would have been in the minority of black people who thought Trent Lott should stay. Sure, I disagree with him on most issues of major policy (as I do with most Republicans), but if Bobby Byrd could get away with using the "n word" about a year ago, at the very least Trent Lott deserved as much (of course, Lott's association with a "KKK lite" group makes me a little suspicious about how racist he really is, but hell, Byrd was actually IN the clan at one time. Of course, I don't think Byrd voted against MLK day, and I've seen him several times on C-SPAN while making speeches talk about how wrong his clan membership was.). Of couse, in the end not much will change in Washington, anyway.
The group Trent Lott was associated with (yes, they were just as bad back then as they are now):
Edited by - crownboy on 20 December 2002 18:2:42
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Pistoff
I used to be very cynical about politics; I think it is a remnant of witness thinking. I am not naive, but I respect all politicians for their effort, if not their policy.
The problem with Lott is NOT just what he said; the problem is that it reflects his BELIEFS. How could the republicans have kept a man in the nation's second most powerful position, arguably, when he is seen by his comments and his voting record to support segregation?
It is NOT that he made a misstatement; he told the truth about his convictions, and they are wrong.
I think that the dems would have been very happy to see Lott continue in the leader's post; that would have been delicious for them the next election.
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Pistoff
borgfree wrote:
The Democrats have had most of the power in this country for several generations now. If they care so much for the poor and minorities why are the poor and minorities still complaining that there is so much needing to be done for those groups? It looks like the Democrats have failed miserably in helping those groups.
This does not make any sense at all; look at the voting records, and who it is that has helped minorities. It is much more the dems, while the repubs have hidden behind racist "states rights" initiatives. Just because the problem has not gone away does not mean that democratic policies have not helped; they have helped.
How can you say the the dems have had the power? Bill Clinton aside, the repubs have had four of six of the last presidencies; they took control of congress in 1994, initiated the fluffy and failed Contract with America. Let's see in another two years if the repubs have yet figured out that when ALL of the classes in the country do well financially, the economy rolls like a freight train. Bill Clinton figured it out, let's see if they will or if they will be happy with another trickle down, reward the ultra rich agenda that Bush senior used, and Reagan before that.
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animal
All classes? Since when does the USA have a class system? It is simple here.. you work, you get paid, you enjoy. The "rich" dont get all these breaks that CNN talks about. The "rich" hire people.... and unless I am wrong, I never saw one poor guy hire anyone. In a capitalistic country, like ours, the "doers" will live comfortably while the "non-doers" will bitch about it while falling behind. And, those latter persons are the ones the liberals will target, to keep the "class" system alive and well.
The economy has already made strides in the past quarter.... and will grow much more in 2003. I dont say anyone person or party is responsible, but it is happening.
Animal
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borgfree
Pistoff,
The President is very limited in what he can do without the cooperation of the Senate and the House of Representatives.
I think you will see by the following list that the Democrats have held the power for most of the 20 th century.
SENATE
53 sessions with Democrat majorities - 8 sessions with Republican majorities
from 1939 through present
76th Congress (1939-1941)
Majority Party: Democrat (69 seats)
Minority Party: Republican (23 seats)
Other Parties: 2 Farmer-Labor; 1 Progressive; 1 Independent
Total Seats: 96
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77th Congress (1941-1943)
Majority Party: Democrat (66 seats)
Minority Party: Republican (28 seats)
Other Parties: 1 Independent; 1 Progressive
Total Seats: 96
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78th Congress (1943-1945)
Majority Party: Democrat (57 seats)
Minority Party: Republican (38 seats)
Other Parties: 1 Progressive
Total Seats: 96
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79th Congress (1945-1947)
Majority Party: Democrat (57 seats)
Minority Party: Republican (38 seats)
Other Parties: 1 Progressive
Total Seats: 96
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80th Congress (1947-1949)
Majority Party: Republican (51 seats)
Minority Party: Democrat (45 seats)
Other Parties: 0
Total Seats: 96
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81st Congress (1949-1951)
Majority Party: Democrat (54 seats)
Minority Party: Republican (42 seats)
Other Parties: 0
Total Seats: 96
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82nd Congress (1951-1953)
Majority Party: Democrat (49 seats)
Minority Party: Republican (47 seats)
Other Parties: 0
Total Seats: 96
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83rd Congress (1953-1955)
Majority Party: Republican (48 seats)
Minority Party: Democrat (47 seats)
Other Parties: 1 Independent
Total Seats: 96
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84th Congress (1955-1957)
Majority Party: Democrat (48 seats)
Minority Party: Republican (47 seats)
Other Parties: 1 Independent
Total Seats: 96
Note: Strom Thurmond (SC) was an Independent Democrat during this Congress
until his resignation on April 4, 1956. In November of that year he was elected as
a Democrat to fill the vacancy created by his resignation. The Independent member
listed above was Wayne Morse (OR), who changed from an Independent to a
Democrat on February 17, 1955.
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85th Congress (1957-1959)
Majority Party: Democrat (49 seats)
Minority Party: Republican (47 seats)
Other Parties: 0
Total Seats: 96
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86th Congress (1959-1961)
Majority Party: Democrat (65 seats)
Minority Party: Republican (35 seats)
Other Parties: 0
Total Seats: 100
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87th Congress (1961-1963)
Majority Party: Democrat (64 seats)
Minority Party: Republican (36 seats)
Other Parties: 0
Total Seats: 100
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88th Congress (1963-1965)
Majority Party: Democrat (66 seats)
Minority Party: Republican (34 seats)
Other Parties: 0
Total Seats: 100
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89th Congress (1965-1967)
Majority Party: Democrat (68 seats)
Minority Party: Republican (32 seats)
Other Parties: 0
Total Seats: 100
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90th Congress (1967-1969)
Majority Party: Democrat (64 seats)
Minority Party: Republican (36 seats)
Other Parties: 0
Total Seats: 100
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91st Congress (1969-1971)
Majority Party: Democrat (57 seats)
Minority Party: Republican (43 seats)
Other Parties: 0
Total Seats: 100
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92nd Congress (1971-1973)
Majority Party: Democrat (54 seats)
Minority Party: Republican (44 seats)
Other Parties: 1 Conservative; 1 Independent
Total Seats: 100
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93rd Congress (1973-1975)
Majority Party: Democrat (56 seats)
Minority Party: Republican (42 seats)
Other Parties: 1 Conservative; 1 Independent
Total Seats: 100
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94th Congress (1975-1977)
Majority Party: Democrat (60 seats)
Minority Party: Republican (38 seats)
Other Parties: 1 Conservative; 1 Independent
Total Seats: 100
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95th Congress (1977-1979)
Majority Party: Democrat (61 seats)
Minority Party: Republican (38 seats)
Other Parties: 1 Independent
Total Seats: 100
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96th Congress (1979-1981)
Majority Party: Democrat (58 seats)
Minority Party: Republican (41 seats)
Other Parties: 1 Independent
Total Seats: 100
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97th Congress (1981-1983)
Majority Party: Republican (53 seats)
Minority Party: Democrat (46 seats)
Other Parties: 1 Independent
Total Seats: 100
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98th Congress (1983-1985)
Majority Party: Republican (54 seats)
Minority Party: Democrat (46 seats)
Other Parties: 0
Total Seats: 100
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99th Congress (1985-1987)
Majority Party: Republican (53 seats)
Minority Party: Democrat (47 seats)
Other Parties: 0
Total Seats: 100
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100th Congress (1987-1989)
Majority Party: Democrat (55 seats)
Minority Party: Republican (45 seats)
Other Parties: 0
Total Seats: 100
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101st Congress (1989-1991)
Majority Party: Democrat (55 seats)
Minority Party: Republican (45 seats)
Other Parties: 0
Total Seats: 100
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102nd Congress (1991-1993)
Majority Party: Democrat (56 seats)
Minority Party: Republican (44 seats)
Other Parties: 0
Total Seats: 100
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103rd Congress (1993-1995)
Majority Party: Democrat (57 seats)
Minority Party: Republican (43 seats)
Other Parties: 0
Total Seats: 100
Note: Party division changed to 56 Democrats and 44 Republicans after the
June 5, 1993 election of Kay B. Hutchison (R-TX).
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104th Congress (1995-1997)
Majority Party: Republican (52 seats)
Minority Party: Democrat (48 seats)
Other Parties: 0
Total Seats: 100
Note: Party ratio changed to 53 Republicans and 47 Democrats after Richard Shelby
of Alabama switched from the Democratic to Republican party on November 9, 1994.
It changed again, to 54 Republicans and 46 Democrats, when Ben Nighthorse Campbell
of Colorado switched from the Democratic to Republican party on March 3, 1995.
When Robert Packwood (R-OR) resigned on October 1, 1995, the Senate divided between
53 Republicans and 46 Democrats with one vacancy. Ron Wyden (D) returned the ratio to
53 Republicans and 47 Democrats when he was elected to fill the vacant Oregon seat.
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105th Congress (1997-1999)
Majority Party: Republican (55 seats)
Minority Party: Democrat (45 seats)
Other Parties: 0
Total Seats: 100
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106th Congress (1999-2001)
Majority Party: Republican (55 seats)
Minority Party: Democrat (45 seats)
Other Parties: 0
Total Seats: 100
Note: As the 106th Congress began, the division was 55 Republican seats
and 45 Democratic seats, but this changed to 54-45 on July 13, 1999 when
Senator Bob Smith of New Hampshire switched from the Republican party to
Independent status. On November 1, 1999, Smith announced his return to the
Republican party, making the division once more 55 Republicans and 45 Democrats.
Following the death of Senator Paul Coverdell (R-GA) on July 18, 2000, the balance
shifted again, to 54 Republicans and 46 Democrats, when the governor appointed
Zell Miller, a Democrat, to fill the vacancy.
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107th Congress (2001-2003)
Majority Party (Jan 3-20, 2001): Democrat (50 seats)
Minority Party: Republican (50 seats)
Other Parties: 0
Total Seats: 100
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Majority Party (Jan 20-June 6, 2001): Republican (50 seats)
Minority Party: Democrat (50 seats)
Other Parties: 0
Total Seats: 100
_____
Majority Party (June 6, 2001 --): Democrat (50 seats)
Minority Party: Republican (49 seats)
Other Parties: 1
Total Seats: 100
HOUSE
25 sessions with Democrat majorities - 4 sessions with Republican majorities
77th Congress (1941-1943)
Total Membership: 435 Members, 2 Delegates, 2 Resident Commisioners
Party Divisions: 162 Republicans, 267 Democrats, 6 Independents78th Congress (1943-1945)
Total Membership: 435 Members, 2 Delegates, 2 Resident Commisioners
Party Divisions: 209 Republicans, 222 Democrats, 4 Independents79th Congress (1945-1947)
Total Membership: 435 Members, 2 Delegates, 2 Resident Commisioners
Party Divisions: 190 Republicans, 243 Democrats, 2 Independents80th Congress (1947-1949)
Total Membership: 435 Members, 2 Delegates, 1 Resident Commisioner
Party Divisions: 246 Republicans, 188 Democrats, 1 Independent81st Congress (1949-1951)
Total Membership: 435 Members, 2 Delegates, 1 Resident Commisioner
Party Divisions: 171 Republicans, 263 Democrats, 1 Independent82nd Congress (1951-1953)
Total Membership: 435 Members, 2 Delegates, 1 Resident Commisioner
Party Divisions: 199 Republicans, 234 Democrats, 2 Independents83rd Congress (1953-1955)
Total Membership: 435 Members, 2 Delegates, 1 Resident Commisioner
Party Divisions: 221 Republicans, 213 Democrats, 1 Independent84th Congress (1955-1957)
Total Membership: 435 Members, 2 Delegates, 1 Resident Commisioner
Party Divisions: 203 Republicans, 232 Democrats85th Congress (1957-1959)
Total Membership: 435 Members, 2 Delegates, 1 Resident Commisioner
Party Divisions: 201 Republicans, 234 Democrats86th Congress (1959-1961)
Total Membership: 437 Members, 0 Delegates, 1 Resident Commisioner
Party Divisions: 153 Republicans, 283 Democrats87th Congress (1961-1963)
Total Membership: 437 Members, 0 Delegates, 1 Resident Commisioner
Party Divisions: 175 Republicans, 262 Democrats88th Congress (1963-1965)
Total Membership: 435 Members, 0 Delegates, 1 Resident Commisioner
Party Divisions: 176 Republicans, 258 Democrats89th Congress (1965-1967)
Total Membership: 435 Members, 0 Delegates, 1 Resident Commisioner
Party Divisions: 140 Republicans, 295 Democrats90th Congress (1967-1969)
Total Membership: 435 Members, 4 Delegates, 1 Resident Commisioner
Party Divisions: 187 Republicans, 248 Democrats91st Congress (1969-1971)
Total Membership: 435 Members, 4 Delegates, 1 Resident Commisioner
Party Divisions: 192 Republicans, 243 Democrats92nd Congress (1971-1973)
Total Membership: 435 Members, 4 Delegates, 1 Resident Commisioner
Party Divisions: 180 Republicans, 255 Democrats93rd Congress (1973-1975)
Total Membership: 435 Members, 4 Delegates, 1 Resident Commisioner
Party Divisions: 192 Republicans, 242 Democrats, 1 Independent94th Congress (1975-1977)
Total Membership: 435 Members, 4 Delegates, 1 Resident Commisioner
Party Divisions: 144 Republicans, 291 Democrats95th Congress (1977-1979)
Total Membership: 435 Members, 4 Delegates, 1 Resident Commisioner
Party Divisions: 143 Republicans, 292 Democrats96th Congress (1979-1981)
Total Membership: 435 Members, 4 Delegates, 1 Resident Commisioner
Party Divisions: 158 Republicans, 277 Democrats97th Congress (1981-1983)
Total Membership: 435 Members, 4 Delegates, 1 Resident Commisioner
Party Divisions: 192 Republicans, 242 Democrats, 1 Independent98th Congress (1983-1985)
Total Membership: 435 Members, 4 Delegates, 1 Resident Commisioner
Party Divisions: 166 Republicans, 269 Democrats99th Congress (1985-1987)
Total Membership: 435 Members, 4 Delegates, 1 Resident Commisioner
Party Divisions: 182 Republicans, 253 Democrats100th Congress (1987-1989)
Total Membership: 435 Members, 4 Delegates, 1 Resident Commisioner
Party Divisions: 177 Republicans, 258 Democrats101st Congress (1989-1991)
Total Membership: 435 Members, 4 Delegates, 1 Resident Commisioner
Party Divisions: 175 Republicans, 260 Democrats102nd Congress (1991-1993)
Total Membership: 435 Members, 4 Delegates, 1 Resident Commisioner
Party Divisions: 167 Republicans, 267 Democrats, 1 Independent103rd Congress (1993-1995)
Total Membership: 435 Members, 4 Delegates, 1 Resident Commisioner
Party Divisions: 176 Republicans, 258 Democrats, 1 Independent104th Congress (1995-1997)
Total Membership: 435 Members, 4 Delegates, 1 Resident Commisioner
Party Divisions: 230 Republicans, 204 Democrats, 1 Independent105th Congress (1997-1999)
Total Membership: 435 Members, 4 Delegates, 1 Resident Commisioner
Party Divisions: 226 Republicans, 207 Democrats, 2 IndependentsPRESIDENTS
1901-2001 - 11 Republicans - 7 Democrats Theodore Roosevelt (1901-09)
William H. Taft (1909-13)
Woodrow Wilson (1913-21) (D)
Warren Harding (1921-23)
Calvin Coolidge (1923-29)
Herbert Hoover (1929-33)
Franklin D. Roosevelt (1933-45) (D)
Harry S Truman (1945-53) (D)
Dwight D. Eisenhower (1953-61)
John F. Kennedy (1961-63) (D)
Lyndon B. Johnson (1963-69) (D)
Richard M. Nixon (1969-74)
Gerald R. Ford (1974-77)
Jimmy Carter (1977-81) (D)
Ronald W. Reagan (1981-89)
George Bush (1989-93)
William J. Clinton (1993-2001) (D)
George W. Bush (2001-present)You say:
This does not make any sense at all; look at the voting records, and who it is that has helped minorities. It is much more the dems, while the repubs have hidden behind racist "states rights" initiatives. Just because the problem has not gone away does not mean that democratic policies have not helped; they have helped.
History just does not agree with that statement. If you want to think that because the Democrats "feel the pain" of the minorities, that somehow helps them, I guess that is up to you. However the minorities have voted almost exclusively for the democrats for many years. Looking at the above information, where the Democrats clearly held power for a majority of the 20th century, most people would expect that all of the problems of the minorities would have been solved many years ago. The Democrats have done nothing to really cure the problems of minorities. They have created many feel good programs which sound good, but in reality, only made the minorities dependent on them for handouts.
Borgfree