A System to STOP the Preaching Work?

by NeonMadman 13 Replies latest watchtower beliefs

  • NeonMadman
    NeonMadman

    As I was sitting in my living room staring at my Christmas tree the other day, for some reason, my mind turned to a possible way for householders who don't want JW's to call on them to get them to stop once and for all. I'm not sure whether it would work or not.

    Now, we know that putting oneself on the "Do Not Call" list doesn't work, because they will continue to call at least once a year to determine whether the householder's "circumstances have changed".

    Then I thought about a system some people have developed to stop telemarketer calls. It goes like this: You get a mailing address from the telemarketer who calls you. You then send a certified letter to that address demanding that no further calls be made to your number. You state that any future calls received will be billed to the company at the rate of, say $500 per call (or whatever amount you want, but keep it under your local limit for small claims court). You further state in your letter that any calls made to your number by the company's representatives after the date of their receipt of the letter (the date they sign the certified mail receipt) will be taken as acceptance of the terms in the letter. Add a statement saying something to the effect that you are prepared to resort to legal means, if necessary, to enforce the terms set forth in the letter.

    Now, heres the kicker: I have read of at least a few cases where people have used the above system, and, when further calls were received, have sued successfully for the fee specified.

    I wonder whether a system like this might work with regard to calls by JW's? A person might send a letter to their local Kingdom Hall (perhaps with a cc to the WTS) stating that they no longer wish to be called upon by Jehovah's Witnesses. Similarly to the above, they would cite a large fee for any future calls at their home, and include a statement that any visits made after the date of the letter's receipt would be taken as agreement to the terms. To be completely fair, they might wish to include a specific statement to the effect that inquiries about any future change in circumstances should be made by mail only, as any in-person calls by Jehovah's Witnesses will be billed for.

    Of course, follow-through would be important. If you were to send such a letter, it would be important, if the JW's did call again in the future, that you actually sent them a bill for the visit, and followed through with legal action against the congregation if they did not pay. If the case were won, it would set an important precedent. It would then be possible, at least within the local community, to publicize the method, allowing as many people to use it as possible. Possibly, even standardized forms and letters could be created. There would be at least the potential to stop the work almost entirely in that area. If nothing else, field service would become a total hassle, since the publishers would have to be extremely careful wherever they went not to call on anyone who had sent a letter.

    Im really not sure how well this would work, from a legal standpoint. As I said, I have heard of cases where systems like this have worked against telemarketers. With JW's, I dont know. The courts might view it differently because of the religious issues involved. Also, different jurisdictions might issue different rulings on the matter. Its also likely that the WTS would ship in their legal eagles to make sure things went their way. But if it worked, the effect on the recruiting work of JW's could be profound.

    What do you think?

    Edited by - NeonMadman on 26 December 2002 11:11:55

  • Satanus
    Satanus

    Reminds me of a tape that used to play in my head. It went, 'satan's chief aim is to stop the preaching work.' Wonder why satan also tries to stop telemarketers. Maybe those companies are also backed by jahoover.

    SS

  • ThiChi
    ThiChi

    Commercial speech and religious speech are treated very differently in the US. I do no think this law will fly with the courts.

    Let them come! I have been using Englishman's approach to talking with the Dubs: "It seems the 1914 teaching was just a bunch of rubbish!" "What a waste!"

    I find that using frank language like this puts you on the "do not call list" ASAP! Damn, I have a bunch more to use, but they have stopped coming around....hehe

    Edited by - thichi on 26 December 2002 11:20:53

  • NeonMadman
    NeonMadman
    Let them come! I have been using Englishmans approach to talking with the Dubs:

    I have to admit that I wasn't thinking of this system so much as a way to keep them away from us (just tell them you're an ex-dub and they'll go away fast), but as something that could be used by everyday folks who don't want to be called on. Of course, some of us might want to do the "test marketing" (i.e., see whether it would really work) and set the system up, then make it available to the public...

  • Lady Lee
    Lady Lee

    I sort of like the idea of sending flyers out to every door telling the people in the community that JWs let accused and even convicted pedophiles come to your door.

    With supporting evidence

  • johnny cip
    johnny cip

    that's sounds great i like it.. ok 2 weeks ago after reading some like posts here... i found a phone # IN A WT to make estate donations...well i called and said that i have asked the jw's many times not to come to my wifes house or my brothers or sisters houses. i said my father a jw keeps sending them ..but he don't believe everything they teach... i gave the addresses and the cong. and said we would be taking legel action if they don't stop coming... the lady was perplexed and questioned me why... i told her if she knew what we know about the wt she would run out of the patterson complex now without a coat and hitch hike home without delay.... anyway she said she would foward the info to the cong and we would not get any more calls... now just waiting for the fall out from my father.. they might take him in the back room for a little interagation .... could get interresting....john

  • metatron
    metatron

    I didn't see it mentioned here but in many areas Witnesses can be fined for
    disobeying a do not call order. I have not heard of the Society fighting this
    - and it may have come up in the court briefs regarding the recent Supreme
    Court case about the door to door work. Likewise, no trespassing signs can be
    enforced legally and the WTS tells pubs 'you're on your own'.

    metatron

  • gumby
    gumby

    What do you think?

    I think if it would work.....

    you could send" letters to the editor" to newspapers with the subject entitled...."How to stop to pesty Jehovah's Witnesses from coming to your home"...then proceed with your idea. It would cover a broad range rather than have certain individuals try it.I suppose though....that would be tabboo for a newspaper as it shows discrimination. It could however be worded so as not to name them in the article......just hint real hard about who it is your talking about.

  • NeonMadman
    NeonMadman
    you could send" letters to the editor" to newspapers with the subject entitled...."How to stop to pesty Jehovah's Witnesses from coming to your home"...then proceed with your idea.

    Great idea, gumby! To avoid any accusation of religious discrimination, you could refer to "religious solicitors," or some phrase like that, instead of naming the JW's specifically. Of course, then the dubs might not know you were talking about them, since their masters have told them that their work is not "soliciting". But everyone else would know, and that would be the point!

  • link
    link

    Could I make a suggestion here?

    Some years ago I lived in a country where Jehovahs Witnesses were very, very unpopular with the general public. Just about everyone had a large notice on their mail box which just said: NO JEHOVAHS WITNESSES and it worked like a charm.

    Perhaps a smaller version of this sign placed by the door knocker or bell would save an awfull lot of time and effort in dealing with them.

    link

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