HLC tells hospitals: check everyone's wallet!

by ozziepost 20 Replies latest watchtower medical

  • ozziepost
    ozziepost

    In the information kit entitled Jehovah's Witnesses - Guidelines for their non-blood medical management the chapter entitled "Emergency Protocol involving Jehovah's Witnesses" instructs all hospital doctors and nurses to check each casualty's wallet/purse for a Blood Card in case the patient is a JW.

    Yeah, right!

    It also states:

    "6. If patient is unconscious and does NOT have a MEDICAL DIRECTIVE, but you have reason to believe he is a Witness, contact the Hospital Liaison Commmittee."

    One wonders how hospital staff in emergency departments would have "reason to believe he (the unconscious patient) is a Witness.

  • Elsewhere
    Elsewhere

    Maybe he has a Watchtower and Awake shoved up his a$$ and that is why he is there to begin with.

  • expatbrit
    expatbrit

    Ozzie!

    Is it possible to scan and post (or email) this information kit?

    Expatbrit

  • Joyzabel
    Joyzabel

    Like the hospital staff has time during an emergency to rummage through somone's wallet or purse! If there is not a medical alert bracelet or necklace, they proceed with business at hand, saving lifes.

    j2bf

  • ozziepost
    ozziepost

    Expat,

    The kit is far too big, like... a book,...to scan and post!!

    The copy I have to use is....well, I've digested a few parts of it and will post my impressions over time.

    http://www.jehovahs-witness.com/forum/thread.aspx?id=43275&site=3

    Cheers, Ozzie

  • bluesapphire
    bluesapphire

    How typically presumptuous. They think the whole world revolves around them and their idiotic doctrines.

  • Scully
    Scully

    Hi Ozzie:

    One wonders how hospital staff in emergency departments would have "reason to believe he (the unconscious patient) is a Witness.

    I've mentioned this before, but it bears repeating. Hospitals will keep records on file from previous admissions. If a patient has previously noted to the hospital staff that they are JW, that will come up on the screen. That is why it is so important to keep your medical and hospital information up-to-date.

    For example, I had a minor surgery done in 1993, while I was still a JW. A few years later, after we had left the Org, I enrolled in a diabetic education class with a classmate (as part of my nurses' training, not because I am diabetic) at the same hospital. For record keeping purposes, I obtained an ID card for the instructor to use when stamping the attendance sheet. In the section reserved for religious affiliation, there it was as clear as day: JW. I went to the admitting department and had them delete that information off my record. I did the same thing at the hospital where I now work, because two of my children were born there, and my records showed that I was registered as a JW.

    The other thing that could possibly happen is if a JW works in the emergency department and thinks they recognize you. That's a little more difficult, but not very likely.

    If you aren't DFd or DAd, and you don't want the hospital contacting the HLC, you MUST have any reference to the JWs deleted from your hospital records. If you're in a life threatening situation, and unconscious, you really don't want some boneheaded elder making a decision to refuse blood transfusions on your behalf.

    Better still, the Living Will/Advance Medical Directive/ID card is another option that you can use - like the NO BLOOD card, it tells medical personnel that you have medical conditions, medications that you take in what dosages, allergies, etc, and what you will and will not accept in terms of treatment in the event that you are unable to give verbal or written consent to treatment. It's best to draw this up with a lawyer to ensure that your wishes are respected.

    Love, Scully

  • No Apologies
    No Apologies

    exactly Blue! Since when did the hospitals become the Society's blood police? These people are just so used to people doing whatever they tell them. They have forgotten how the real world works.

  • bluesapphire
    bluesapphire

    Scully, I have first hand experience with what you speak of also.

    About four years ago when I was just beginning to leave the dubs (due to the blood doctrine which was the first thing that opened my eyes), I had an alergic reaction to codeine.

    My dad picked me up and took me to the ER. Well, as far as he knew I was a JW. So when they asked what religion I am he volunteered, "Jehovahs witness."

    I was very sick, leaning over, couldn't breathe, but I managed to stand up and say very loudly, "NO! I'm just Christian!"

    The lady who was taking the info said, "Ma'am, if you're a JW, we need to know so we can notify your elders. They want to be notified whenever a JW registers."

    So I repeated, "That is exactly why I don't want it listed that I am JW .... because not all JWs refuse blood and if you call the elders they will enforce their policy on me and I could die."

    She looked at me with amazed eyes. So did my dad. I was practically collapsing but I could tell that it was the first time it had ever occurred to anyone that some JWs might not believe in the no blood doctrine.

    That's when I knew that more needed to be done to educate and get that information out. Because the WTS is spending a lot of man-hours distributing their propaganda and they have the majority of hospitals believing that all JWs refuse blood. We have a good example in Shunned Father's experience. He was an active JW but would have accepted blood for his child.

    The WTS doesn't want the JWs to have a choice or a voice. They want their blood liaison committee to be the voice for all JWs.

  • TR
    TR
    One wonders how hospital staff in emergency departments would have "reason to believe he (the unconscious patient) is a Witness.

    Purple triangle tattooed on the left ass-cheek?

    TR

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