ATTENTION APOSTATES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! (page 6)

Marcos

This doesn't mean we'll put up with people playing games though!

Amen!

Marcos

SheilaM

I have never been so happy to be called an apostate...kinda rolls of the tongue doesn't it!!!!! Thanks Simon for you great detective work the Scotland Yard would be bloody proud LOL

jst2laws

OK Ging, your remark:

Nice words tex but since i have been on here not 1 person has posted anything biblical or otherwise to prove wts wrong.

I suggested you pick a topic but you haven't. So is it OK if I pick one? It will be biblical.

THE GOOD NEWS

Please click on the thread below and lets chat.

http://www.jehovahs-witness.com/forum/thread.aspx?id=43407&site=3

Jst2laws

As Jesus and his disciples were leaving Jericho, a large crowd followed him. Two blind men were sitting by the roadside, and when they heard that Jesus was going by, they shouted, "LORD, SON OF DAVID, HAVE MERCY ON US!"

The crowd rebuked them and told them to be quiet, but they shouted all the louder, "LORD, SON OF DAVID, HAVE MERCY ON US!"

Jesus stopped and called them. "WHAT DO YOU WANT ME TO DO FOR YOU?" he asked

"LORD", they answered, "WE WANT OUR SIGHT."

Jesus had compassion on them and touched their eyes. Immediately they received their sight and followed him.

Matthew 20:29-34

Francois

Belief in God does not equivalate to belief in the man-made, false prophet named the Watchtower Bible and Tract Society.

NAME FOR US ONE, JUST ONE, PROPHECY OF THE WTBTS THAT HAS PROVEN TRUE, JUST ONE.

BETCHA CAN'T DO IT.

francois

shera

Oh Good Larwd!!!

Do some research hun.

Str8tTalker

The Watchtower Society declared Christ's second coming October 1874.

Charles Taz Russell's Studies in Scripture(volume4) pg. 621 says, "Our Lord, the appointed King is now present, since October 1874 A.D...and the formal inauguration of his kingly office dates from April 1878,A.D"

The Watchtower publication Creation, pg. 289, said that "the second coming of the Lord therefore began in 1874..."

The Watchtower publication Prophecy, pg. 65, says that "the Scriptural proof is that the second presence of the Lord Jesus Christ began in 1874 A.D."

A 1923 issue of The Watchtower magazine, 1 March 1923, pg. 67 said, "No one can properly understand the work of God at this time who does not realize that since 1874, the time of the Lord's return in power, there has been a complete change in God's operations." The Society does not like to admit these quotes, since the Society now teaches that Christ "returned" invisibly in 1914!

1914-The Invisible Coming of Christ?
Despite the fact that that early Watchtower literature assured people that Christ returned in 1874, the Society later argued that the invisible Second Coming of Christ occurred in 1914.

The Truth Shall Make You Free pg. 300 states that "Christ Jesus came to the Kingdom in A.D 1914, but unseen to men."

Let God Be True pg. 250 tells us that "Jesus foretold many things that would mark the time of his invisible presence and the setting up of God's kingdom. The end of the Gentile Times or 'appointed times of the nations' in 1914 was the time for these to begin appearing."

Man's Salvation Out of World Distress At Hand pg.288 speaks of people who "refuse to discern the invisible, spiritual 'presence' of Jesus Christ in Kingdom power since the close of the Gentile Times in 1914." Why did early Watchtower literature teach that the Second Coming of Christ occurred in 1874, while later literature from the Society taught it happened in 1914?
Do true prophets of God change their minds like this?

Watchtower literature was also very clear that 1914 would mark the overthrow of human governments and the full establishment of the Kingdom of God on earth. Note the following quotes:
Charles Taz Russell's Studies in the Scriptures (volume 2, 1888 pgs.98-99) said that "within the coming twenty-six years all present governments will be overthrown and dissolved...The full establishment of the Kingdom of God will be accomplished by the end of A.D. 1914." (Note that in later editions of this publication - after 1914 - the phrase "by the end of A.D.1914" was changed to "near the end of A.D. 1915."

Studies in the Scriptures (volume 3 - 1891) pg.126 refers to "full establishment of the Kingdom of God in the earth at A.D. 1914."

Studies in the Scriptures (volume 3 - 1913 edition) pg.228 states, "That the deliverance of the saints must take place some time before 1914 is manifest...Just how long before 1914 the last living members of the body of Christ will be glorified, we are not directly informed." (Note that the 1923 edition reads, "That the deliverance of the saints must take place very soon after 1914 is manifest...Just how long after 1914 the last living members of the body of Christ will be glorified, we are not directly informed.")

The Time Is at Hand, pg.101 - 1889 - The 'battle of the great day of God Almighty' (Rev.16:14), which will end in A.D. 1914 with the complete overthrow of earth's present ruler ship is already commenced" Why didn't the overthrow of human governments and the full establishment of God's Kingdom occur in 1914 like the Watchtower Society predicted? Since the prophecy did not come to pass, doesn't this mean the Society is a false prophet?

1925-The Return of Abraham, Isaac, Jacob, and the Prophets?
Watchtower leaders once taught that Abraham, Isaac, Jacob and the Old Testament prophets would return as "princes" and live in an estate in San Diego, California known as Beth-Sarim("House of Princes"). The year 1925 was definitely when these Old Testament saints were expected to come on the scene. This expectancy is reflected in the following Watchtower publications.
Millions Now Living Will Never Die(Brooklyn:Watchtower Bible and Track Society, 1920), pgs. 88-90 said that "we may expect 1925 to witness the return of these faithful men of Israel from the condition of death, being resurrected...1925 will mark the return of Abraham, Isaac, Jacob, and the faithful prophets of old." The Watchtower, 15 October 1917 said, "There will be no slip-up...Abraham should enter upon the actual possession of his promised inheritance in the year 1925 A.D." The Watchtower, 1 April 1923 pg. 106 said, "1925 is definitely settled by the Scriptures." The Watchtower, 15 July 1924 pg. 211 said, "The year 1925 is a date definitely and clearly marked in the Scriptures, even more clearly that that of 1914." Why didn't Abraham, Isaac, Jacob, and other Old Testament "princes" show up in 1925 like the Watchtower Society said they would? Since this prophecy did not come to pass, doesn't this mean the Society is a false prophet?

1975-The End of Human History?
The Watchtower Society continued its pattern of false predictions by telling its followers that the 6,000 years of human history would come to an end in 1975. Armageddon was to occur that year and Christ was to set up the Millennial Kingdom of earthly paradise. Note the following Watchtower publication:

Awake!, 8 October 1966 , pg.19 said, "In what year, then, would the first 6,000 years of man's existence and the first 6,000 years of God's rest come to an end? The year 1975." (Note, however, that a much earlier issue of The Watchtower magazine [1894] had said that the 6,000 years of man's history had ended in 1873.(The Watchtower, 15 July 1894, p.1675))

Our Kingdom Ministry, March 1968, pg. 4 says, "There are only about ninety months [7 and years] left before 6,000 years of man's existence on earth is completedThe majority of people living today will probably be alive when Armageddon breaks out."

Our Kingdom Ministry, June 1969, pg. 3 , "In view of the short time left, a decision to pursue a career in this system of things is not only unwise but extremely dangerousMany young brothers and sisters were offered scholarships or employment that promised fine pay. However, they turned them down and put spiritual matters first."

Life Everlasting - in Freedom of the Sons of God, Watchtower Society, 1966, pg. 29, "According to this trustworthy Bible chronology six thousand years from man's creation will end in 1975, and the seventh period of a thousand years of human history will begin in the fall of 1975 C.E." Did you know that the Watchtower Society originally taught that 6,000 years of human history would come to an end in 1873, and later changed to 1975? Since the Watchtower Society was wrong both times, doesn't this mean the Society is a false prophet?

Why didn't human history come to an end in 1975 - culminating in the outbreak of Armageddon like the Watchtower Society said it would?
Do you really think the Watchtower is a true prophet of God? The Watchtower, 15 May 1930, pg. 154 says that when one discovers false prophets, "the people should no longer trust them as safe guides."
Do you agree with the Watchtower instruction that when one discovers false prophets, then "the people should no longer trust them as safe guides"?

Since the Watchtower Society was wrong in 1874, 1914, 1925, and 1975, do you think you should still trust the Society as a "safe guide"? Former Vice President Admits to False Prophecy in Court! H.C. Covington, a former vice-president of the Watchtower board and a gifted lawyer, swore at the *Scotland trial where F.W. Franz testified, that the Watchtower was guilty of circulating false prophecies concerning the second coming of Christ. The following is an excerpt taken from his testimony.

Q: You have promulgated - forgive the word - false prophecy?
A: We have. I do not think we have promulgated false prophecy.

There have been statements that were erroneous, that is the way I put it, and mistaken. He further testified that if a good Jehovah's Witness denounced these false prophecies, he would be disfellowshipped and considered worthy of death, even though he or she was right and the Society was wrong!

*This information is from the Pursuer's Proof of the cross-examination held on Wednesday, Nov. 24, 1954, pg. 340, par. C. Trial information from "Jehovah of the Watchtower" by Walter Martin and Norman Klann.

Str8tTalker

Hello, with all the Christian Love I desire to address this topic with all. The Watchtower made this statement;

The Watchtower, Mar. 1, 1975 "the Bibleestablished the rules for testing prophecy in Deut. 18:20-22."

To sum it up, Duet. 18:20-22 & 13:1-8 gives us guide lines on a Biblical prophet & how we should not be afraid of false prophets. Their documentation from their own publications and their teachings clearly show that they are wrong in their "predictions" over and over and over. Why would you base your eternal life on the teachings of an "organization" that continually misinterprets Gods Word? How can you possibly trust any other teachings of the WTBTS knowing what you now know?

Be a Witness for Your Lord Jesus Christ...ACTS 1:8
Salvation comes through JESUS... Acts 4:10-12 & Romans 10:9-13

COMF

Children, let's put on our thinking caps now, shall we?

IAM OFF TO THE UNITED NATIONS TO TAKE MY BOOKS BACK

Hot, sensitive topic, not currently being discussed but popular about a year or so ago. He knows not only the issue, but also the 'tower's lame excuse for its membership, "to get access to the UN library".

Study on it a bit, folks. It'll come to ya.

JT

As u know wts doctrine is based around jehovah...jesus is relegated to second place

at first i thought this poster was a loyal jw, but then as they say give a fool enough rope and they will hang themselves- being a former Society Man , i can spot a fake 10 miles and folks we got us a fake poster here who ain't even that good

let us consider some of the terms that were used that is a dead give away that this poster is a fake0 ( i will admit he got lots of hits though)

here we go point number :

1--anyway he says "wts doctrine" no loyal jw every refers to what is taught to the congo as "wts doctrine"

2. no real jw would ever say ..."jesus is relegated to second place"- in fact that is what jw argue that they don't do, jw never use such phraseology as "relegated"

so while his first post may have thrown some off - i think most saw the TROLL- PHONEY JW mile away

ATTENTION APOSTATES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Marcos

SheilaM

jst2laws

manon

Francois

shera

Str8tTalker

Str8tTalker

COMF

JT

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