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VA shooting suspect was raised a JW! He mentions it on his Twitter account
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cappytan
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LisaRose
BTW: I was in America just last week and down in Texas no less (San Antonio). It was nice (but HOT!). I didn't get shot so that was nice.
I went to San Antonio last year in August. It was horribly hot. I only went then because my grandson was graduating from Air Force basic training. I wouldn't advise anyone to visit then, but the winters are nice there. I loved Riverwalk and my husband found a really nice boutique hotel there, so that made it bearable.
I agree we have a problem with gun violence here in the U.S., but I think sometimes it gets a bit overstated. In 2013 there were 10.64 deaths per 100,000 people in the US. Canada and The UK were much less, 2.2 and .26, but many counties were much more. But it's not like every day here is the shootout at the OK corral.
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Simon
Riverwalk was nice (the irish piano bar there was good) but the heat! OMG, it was 113 degrees! Even walking out at midnight felt like opening an over door. Last week we had snow here (ah, August in Calgary).
I'd definitely revisit though - it seems an interesting place with a decent amount of genuine history (the Alamo obviously) which would be worth exploring more.
I could move to Waco, buy a compound and start a cult !
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Boeing Stratofortress
But it's not like every day here is the shootout at the OK corral.
That's right, Lisa Rose!! Because the Gunfight at the OK Corral was between armed adversaries. I don't think Wyatt Earp ever aspired to shoot up a school full of elementary aged children. Nor did he get his kicks out of mowing people down in a crowded theater, or a Pokemon fest (this was attempted last week)...here's the news piece:
Yes, a damn Pokemon fest. Full of children, and almost turned into another massacre. Hmm, ya think old Wyatt would've done that?
Not like the OK Corral every day??? Do you live under a rock???
289 people shot EACH DAY in this country, here are your stats:
Every year in the U.S., an average of more than 100,000 people are shot, according to The Brady Campaign To Prevent Gun Violence.
Every day in the U.S., an average of 289 people are shot. Eighty-six of them die: 30 are murdered, 53 kill themselves, two die accidentally, and one is shot in a police intervention, the Brady Campaign reports.
In 2013 there were 10.64 deaths per 100,000 people in the US. Canada and The UK were much less, 2.2 and .26, but many counties were much more.
How many countries? And where? You mean 3rd world crap holes in Africa, or Central America?? Name a developed 1st world country that has stats WORSE than the U.S.?? "Crickets"......that's what I thought. Now, just go on and crawl back under that rock.
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freemindfade
OK I am sick of this. One sided stats and facts. Does anyone even understand how statistics work??? You can just throw out a number without context. I'm not talking about guns but I'm sick of this idea that America I'd blood soaked orgy of violence and people parroting the fear mongering they here by media and polliticicians with agendas.
Violent crimes and murder in America have DECREASED by 50% over the last 20 years. Murder is about 4/100,000. Who EVER talks about that?? No one. Does anyone also know that the UK has 3 times the violent crime and 'Merica' per capita. Murders are slightly less but also consider this. The bulk of murders in America happen in metropolitan areas of 250,000 or more. Guess what. We have a lot more of those areas than the uk where everyone walks around on rainbows hugging each other and petty butterflies. Not being violent oh no.
I lived in new York City. 8 million people. Gun laws so strick it's basically impossible for a citizen and many cases even law enforcement to privately. Everyday people were more afraid of the word gun than witness are of Satan. It was a true non gun nut zone. However. Everyday in east new York and Brownsville. Shootings. These parts of new York are extremely dangerous. Riddled with poverty and crime. America is guilty. Guilt of allowing places like this to thrive in their metropolitan areas without giving real help on education, poverty and eliminating dangerous crime.
So don't manipulate the stats. To me UK sounds far more dangerous. You guys don't have all the metropolitan areas that foster murder but you still have a decent rate and you are three times as violent.
You guys should spend more time complaining about how we let pieces of cap like the Kardashians get famous and ignore the problems of the inner cities. Seriously
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Simon
OK I am sick of this. One sided stats and facts. Does anyone even understand how statistics work??? You can just throw out a number without context. I'm not talking about guns but I'm sick of this idea that America I'd blood soaked orgy of violence and people parroting the fear mongering they here by media and polliticicians with agendas.
Violent crimes and murder in America have DECREASED by 50% over the last 20 years. Murder is about 4/100,000. Who EVER talks about that?? No one. Does anyone also know that the UK has 3 times the violent crime and 'Merica' per capita. Murders are slightly less but also consider this. The bulk of murders in America happen in metropolitan areas of 250,000 or more. Guess what. We have a lot more of those areas than the uk where everyone walks around on rainbows hugging each other and petty butterflies. Not being violent oh no.
So don't manipulate the stats. To me UK sounds far more dangerous. You guys don't have all the metropolitan areas that foster murder but you still have a decent rate and you are three times as violent.
Ok. you castigate people for using 'one sided facts without context' and then immediately do the same.
In the UK, someone punching someone on the nose is a violent crime. I think more of those and less "shot in the face" violent crime is much better ... don't you? They sure as hell are not equal. Sure, people don't walk round hugging each other ... but they are certainly shooting each other a whole lot less. Even the places with reputations for being the most violent in the UK like Glasgow aren't at all bad compared to some of the US cities and the vast majority of times everyone goes home alive - the fighting is more typically some brawling after the pubs empty out.
America isn't the absolute highest for gun crime but it is of all the developed so called "1st world countries" by a long, long way. It is an outlier and that shows there is something wrong. The only countries that are higher are failed states / war zone types. It's statistically safer being a soldier in Iraq than a cop in some US cities. There is something very, very wrong and simply trying to deny the problem isn't any kind of solution.
But America is a big place and it's not all the same everywhere. Some places have little gun crime but the worrying trend is that it seems to be growing and happening even in the sleepy little towns. There doesn't seem a way to predict it or escape from it.
One of the links I posted earlier breaks things down and shows that some cities are more like their European equivalents whereas some cities are more like the high-rate countries (Honduras
Why not keep hunting rifles in the hunting states and stop giving out handguns in the shoot-each-other cities?
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freemindfade
Fact 250,000+ metropolitan areas hold the bulk murder rate. UK & US. US has statically far more 250k+ metro area. Math. Our murder rate will be higher.
Want to talk about one sided statistics? Everyone sounds the alarm on assault rifles. The evil Americans why do they need them. Well the perception is intestine because a miniscule fraction of deaths come from "rifles". A subset of that is assault rifles. I'm not advocating for them. But people twist things to make it appear we have an assault rifle problem because the talking heads on TV tell them we do.
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freemindfade
Why not keep hunting rifles in the hunting states and stop giving out handguns in the shoot-each-other cities?
Go to new York City and get a handgun. Good luck. You'd have better luck convincing wtbts to change their policy. It's nearly impossbile!
Also the gun nuts don't reside in the city, Billy bob, Joe bob, and Bubba the gun nuts arent there.
The things you talk about are not based on real knowledge of America.the murders are happening in poverty stricken areas. The gun problem is there. But the violence starts there too.
You guys are so blinded by being anti gun that you refuse to acknowledge the United states issues with poverty and areas that are not like "1st world" countries but 3rd world slums.
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Simon
Fact 250,000+ metropolitan areas hold the bulk murder rate. UK & US. US has statically far more 250k+ metro area. Math. Our murder rate will be higher.
No, that's a distortion. The way stats works is you look at the Per-Capita rates. Everything is always the rate, rarely the absolute number (when making comparisons). This allows you to compare things even when the populations are different. Otherwise, how do you compare a city with 500,000 people and one with 700,000?
As an example, consider Baltimore. They have 37.4 homicide rate which is per 100,000 people (it's probably way higher now - they have had 220+ this year!). That lets us compare them against any other place. Calgary had 22 murders in a city of 1.2+ million which makes a homicide rate of just 1.8.
Guess what, even though Calgary is a much bigger city (about twice the size) it has a much lower murder rate. By your logic (where size alone makes for a higher rate), that shouldn't be the case.
It should mean that larger cities have a higher absolute number but only if the rates are not wildly different. Baltimore still blows Calgary away (pun intended) in absolute terms even though size-wise it should be much less.
If you look at how people are killed, it's predominantly guns