Meeting with the "Elders"

by Shytears 22 Replies latest jw friends

  • ashitaka
    ashitaka

    SOJ-

    If you're for real, take you're shit elsewhere. We have no need for people heckling others who have been abused by pervert elders trying to get the scoop on young persons having sex so they can have their own fantasies once they've arrived in their own protected bedrooms.

    Shy-just take it easy. Take it one day at a time, and slowly leave the Watchtower. Make yourself independent financially, and get the proper schooling before you leave home. You don't need garbage like this at your age. Just have some discreet fun, and if the elders ever try to ask you about your personal life again, tell them to piss off.

    good luck,

    ash

  • outnfree
    outnfree

    Sword,

    GO AWAY!!!!!

    outnfree

  • bittersweet
    bittersweet

    Sword can't be a witless.They don't use such foul language.Can you see Jesus speaking like that?

    Get lost Sword.Nobody need your negativity here.

  • ApagaLaLuz
    ApagaLaLuz

    Shy:

    I'm sure you have already made your mind up about moving in with your friend. I am still young, but it has been my experience that even though a person maybe an adult legally at 18, they are still emotional, and sometimes intelligently, not mature enough to venture out in to the real world. Unless someone is being physically or sexually abused, I think it is best to stay at home as long as possible. I left home at 19, though not by my own will. It was VERY rough. Though I was an exception, and have since sprouted a wonderful life, many times I had oportunities to make decisions that could have drastically affected my outcome.

    Please be mature enough to think this through alot. And SWORD OF JAH...... beware of the wrath of Jah when he judges you for your association with Apostates. Oh yeah, and for using the words Bullshit and Bitch

  • detective
    detective
    Wake up and find Jehovah again, dear.

    SoresofJah,

    Damn. Did somebody go misplace the supreme one again? Have you tried looking on the kitchen counter sometimes I leave him there.

  • LDH
    LDH

    Spores of Jah,

    (((LURKERS TAKE NOTE)))

    You are a dumb ass. Shy clearly stated SHE was the one acting. I clearly stated I was not acting. I was (at that time, anyway) truly repentant for my sin.

    FYI, I got reinstated four months later. It was only for show, anyway. LOL. Then I walked away.

    Lisa

    Apostate Bitch Class

  • sunshineToo
    sunshineToo

    shytears,

    Please pay attention to some of the advices given here eps. "Be careful on your decision making."

    It is tough out there. Even adults with college degree living with their spouses struggle these days. I don't know where you live, but I just hope that your rent is not too high for you and your friend. Be careful. I've seen some young people moving out with their friends and coming back home with debt and losing everything they owned once.

    I don't know what your "sin" was, but if you act up badly(?), it's going to make the Elders look even better to the congregation. That means the parents will go tighter on their children in the congregation. If you really want to get out, talk to some of the closest friends and relatives you have if they are not jws. Plan carefully.

    sunshineToo

  • Skeptic
    Skeptic

    Shy,

    Get a good education, and prepare to be finishing high school or in college at 17 or 18. If you are living on your own and attending college, you are free from your parents and building a good life for yourself. Student loans are easy to get and will pay for college and living expenses.

    A responsible person can live on their own at 17. I was living on my own attending college at 17. My parents raised us to know from a young age that at 18 we would be living on our own. I consider that a good thing, as I had several years to prepare and plan accordingly.

    Shy, your experience with the elders shows that the decisions of judical committees are not guided by holy spirit or Jehovah. If Jehovah was involved, then the elders could not be fooled, and there would be no wrongful DFings.

    Shy, I normally recommend that you stay with your parents until you are in a good solid position to live on your own. However, living under the silly JW rules may do much damage. Or make you rebel.

    Also, sometimes it is good for a person to leave home at a young age. My oldest son is 20, and still living at home. He is still in Grade 11. He is enjoying a free ride, and has not applied himself to school. Why should he? He is living a much better lifestyle than he could on his own.

    If he had been kicked out at 18, I will bet that his view on schooling, etc. would be completely different. Some people only learn at the school of hard knocks.

    SwordOfJah,

    You have a good point. The elders did show mercy, and that is a good thing. If they are going to err, I prefer they err on the side of mercy. And us apostates do not give enough credit to the reasonable elders and JWs; this is a topic I have addressed at least a few times.

    That said, the typical way of handling some cases is silly. Fornication and adultery, for example. If a grown man or woman admits to committing fornication or adultery, what more is needed? We all know what is involved with fornication and adultery. Yet, elders will ask for the initimate details. Who touch who where, how often, did you cum, how many times did you stroke his cock, etc? Why are such details needed? That level of detail is primarily so the elders can get their jollies. Many sisters have noticed the elder's having a hard-on during such questioning. The Mormons have a similar line of questioning, but hide the hard-ons: the elders sit behind a desk when holding their equivalent of a judical committee.

    Also, from what I know of Jehovah, he is a complete bastard. Look at the silly rules he has, and how they fall apart under extreme circumstances. Look at the hardships JWs go through for the sake of the silly rules. I would rather die in a so-called Armageddon than serve such a heartless God for eternity. And any God that has to use the threat of Armageddon to keep his followers in line has to be a bastard. A loving God would not have to use fear. And if Hilter was a sick man for killing 10 million or so people, how sick is Jehovah who plans on killing 6 Billion?

    Richard

    Edited by - Skeptic on 8 January 2003 16:36:16

  • AlanF
    AlanF

    I love it when JWs like DullSwordOfJah don't even know what their own religion teaches.

    The Watchtower teaches that when elders make judicial decisions, they're only reflecting a decision already made in heaven. In other words, they're inspired to reach their decisions. Yet DullSword allows that Jehovah can be fooled! What a God JWs worship!

    AlanF

  • meadow77
    meadow77

    I never noticed how much the french cussed. Anyway, what is she supposed to do SOJ? She is just a girl who has already decided she doesn't believe in this malarchy, but is forced to pretend so that she doesn't lose all her friends and family. Very nice. Is that her fault? I hardly think so. And good point as always from Alan F. My only advice is the same as Yeru. It's much harder being on your own than you could ever imagine. I moved out when I was 17 too, and I learned alot the hard way. If you are really serious about moving out please be smart, at least save up as much money as you can. You will need a good nest egg at the very least. Good luck to you.

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