He has attacked a religious belief,
Maybe, but I see no partiality in his rulings on Davis. The gay pair to be married asked Bunning to punish Davis, he decided that he would enforce his order, he did not want to.
If she doesn't comply an orange jumpsuit is in her future
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Fisherman
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Fisherman
she can get out of jail anytime she wishes
All she has to do is comply with the Court Order
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violias
So the courts can now arrest us wihout bail for our religious beliefs?
Martin Aiemoher
First they came for the Socialists, and I did not speak out—
Because I was not a Socialist.Then they came for the Trade Unionists, and I did not speak out—
Because I was not a Trade Unionist.Then they came for the Jews, and I did not speak out—
Because I was not a Jew.Then they came for me—and there was no one left to speak for me.
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Fisherman
So the courts can now arrest us wihout bail for our religious beliefs?
She is not being detained for her religious beliefs. She is being detained for Contempt of Court. In Davis's case, a crime. It is not up to you to decide if Davis should be paroled.
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LisaRose
This woman is refusing to obey a direct court order. We are a country ruled by law, not religion. It is very appropriate to jail someone who refuses a court order, it's not some minor thing, the courts must have to have the ability to enforce the law. People can't just decide to disobey laws because of their religious beliefs and expect the courts to do nothing, that's not how it works.
Many people have used religion to justify all kind of behavior, not allowing women to vote, discriminating because of race, interracial marriages, etc. Once those things were outlawed, they didn't allow people to do decide if they wanted to obey the law or not because of their religious beliefs, this is no different. It is a big deal when an elected official flatly refuses to obey the law, if they allowed her to do this there would be patchwork standards all over, some counties obeying the law, other not. You simply cannot allow that, it would be chaos.
This woman is not being jailed for religious beliefs, she is free to believe gay marriage is wrong, she just isn't being allowed to use her beliefs to break the law by refusing to obey a court order.
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Fisherman
It is very appropriate to jail someone who refuses a court order
Not always, but Bunning decided that it was in Davis' case.
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Oogie
This cannot be done. You cannot jail Kim for refusing to issue a license for same-sex marriage on moral grounds, because she is an elected official, put in place by public choice as a protector of public interest, which means that her actions and opinions matter. Jail is not an option, if anyone disagrees, impeachment proceedings are the appropriate action for defying a judge, and since the [Kentucky] public vastly agrees with her not allowing same-sex marriage, there is little chance anyone would ever get her impeached.
Sorry, but that's just the facts.
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The Rebel
Hope my contribution is on topic?
in my opinion there is no " traditional marriage" it changes with the views of society. Yet for many religious people the religiouse view hasn't.
So what is their religious view:-
a) unfaithful is forgivable.
b) get married and divorced 5 or 6 times is ok.
Yey argue against Gay marriage.
hmmmmmm seems a little hypocritical to me.
The Rebel.
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SecretSlaveClass
People love,to play the victims and love rallying to victims - it earns them respect, admiration, sympathy and support from those who identify with them. Once people take it as a personal attack on their "beliefs" the facts are irrelevant compared to their feelings. As I said, like arguing with a brick. -
The Rebel
Another observation I noted Christians were waving banners and saying " Sodomy is Sin". My question is:-
What has gay marriage and love got to do with sodomy?
In my opinion it's a seperate issue, and not relevant to the debate.
The Rebel